I've tried Tunnelblick on my mac and after some issues figuring out 
where it stored the config files it actually uses (and some issues with 
permissions, etc.), I got it working pretty nicely. I'll have to check 
out Viscosity.

And yeah, the AstLinux GUI openvpn certificate creation/management tool 
is pretty sweet.

-James

On 08/11/2010 04:35 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> I prefer OpenVPN as my VPN of choice in AstLinux.  As Darrick stated, by 
> default UDP is used as transport, so it carries voice very nicely.
>
> Additionally, the throughput of OpenVPN is noticeably higher than IPsec in 
> AstLinux, for unknown reasons.  A wimpy net4801 can do 3.6Mb/s using blowfish 
> encryption over OpenVPN.
>
> Granted IPsec has differences that may be beneficial at times, but OpenVPN 
> has never failed me.  AstLinux supports certificates via OpenVPN, currently 
> IPsec does not in AstLinux.
>
> OS X users will find "Viscosity" an excellent OpenVPN client.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Darrick Hartman wrote:
>
>    
>> James,
>>
>> Philip will argue that IPsec is "better" because it operates at the
>> kernel level and as a result, you can traffic shape better.  While that
>> is true, my statement that openvpn is currently a better option in
>> AstLinux for dynamic IP addresses is still valid.  We currently do not
>> support dynamic end points in IPsec.
>>
>> Philip, openvpn uses UDP for transport, not TCP by default.  You CAN use
>> TCP, but it's not recommended.
>>
>> You CAN support routes back from the client to the server.  This is
>> called client-to-client routing and requires a few additional config
>> files to work properly.  I do this all the time for remote offices so
>> they can have a network printer that is reachable from the main office.
>>
>> Darrick
>>
>> On 08/11/2010 02:28 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>>      
>>>    Because IPsec copies the QoS markings of packets from the encapsulated 
>>> packet into the wrapping packet.
>>>
>>> It is also datagram based, so you won't have to worry about delays caused 
>>> by lost packets, retransmission, and reordering (unlike openvpn which runs 
>>> over SSL+TCP).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/11/10 12:09 PM, James Babiak wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Why is that? I'm curious because I use openvpn in astlinux all the time
>>>> (both as a server and client) and am pretty happy with it. I use it for
>>>> both static and dynamic remote locations to connect back to my house,
>>>> and generally have about 3-4 openvpn sessions going at a given time.
>>>> I've used it quite successfully with different soft phones apps (on
>>>> laptops and my iphone), and assuming that I have sufficiently good
>>>> bandwidth, have never had an issue sending voip traffic over an openvpn
>>>> tunnel.
>>>>
>>>> My only gripe with openvpn is, unless I'm missing something, the lack of
>>>> clients being able to advertise routes back to the server. And even if I
>>>> set them statically, I could never get it working right. Granted I
>>>> didn't spend too much time on it, and decided to just create a dual
>>>> tunnel (client<-server and server->client).
>>>>
>>>> What benefit(s) does ipsec give over openvpn for voip?
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>> On 08/11/2010 02:28 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>>      On 8/10/10 9:25 PM, Darrick Hartman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> On 08/10/2010 11:21 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>        On 8/10/10 8:49 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>> Would pptp be available as a VPN option?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can find no references to it other than it was an experimental 
>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>> back in 0.6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>> It's still in the source tree and buildable, but if you need VPN, I'd 
>>>>>>> go with IPsec.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> Or OpenVPN.  Both are good options, depending on the need.  If you are
>>>>>> going static IP to static IP, IPsec is the best choice.  If you're going
>>>>>> dynamic to static, openvpn (currently) is a better choice.  There is
>>>>>> still work to be done for our implementation of IPsec to work with
>>>>>> dynamic end points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> IPsec is also the best choice if you're running VoIP over a tunnel.
>>>>>
>>>>>            
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