Yes, looks good, Emphase makes good flash products.

Also the SanDisk SSD U Series has a "capacitor system" to prevent data loss...

SanDisk - Unexpected Power Loss Protection - White Paper
http://www.sandisk.com/assets/docs/unexpected_power_loss_protection_final.pdf

I just placed an order for a "SanDisk U110 SDSA6GM-032G" for $45 USD to test.

Lonnie


On Oct 19, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Michael Knill <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> This guy is not too bad!
> 
> http://www.logicsupply.com/components/storage/msata-ssd/g5rm3g032-m/
> 
> Regards
> Michael Knill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 Oct 2014, at 9:01 am, Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have read that SandForce controllers (now owned by Seagate) don't use DRAM 
> for caching...
> "SandForce gave the name "DuraClass" to the overall technology incorporated 
> in its controllers. SandForce controllers do not use DRAM for caching which 
> reduces cost and complexity compared to most other SSD controllers. "
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SandForce
> 
> But I have not found anything smaller then 60 GB with a SandForce controller.
> http://www.amazon.com/ADATA-SandForce-2-5-Inch-Solid-AS511S3-60GM-C/dp/B0050T28PQ/
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Michael Knill 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Whoops sorry. Just embarrassed myself again. Its dependent on the drive 
>> itself.
>> 
>> Maybe we could have a list of known SSD drives that ‘do the correct thing’
>> 
>> Regards
>> Michael Knill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 8:13 am, Michael Knill 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi thanks Lonnie
>> 
>> Yes I would like to see something done and 1) & 2) are definitely out as 
>> being cost prohibitive.
>> 
>> So what is the default flush time for the cache? 
>> If there are concerns about disabling it, couldn’t it just be changed to be 
>> very low?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Michael Knill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Oct 2014, at 2:05 am, Lonnie Abelbeck <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like to start a discussion on the SATA Drive "write cache" and whether 
>> it should be disabled in AstLinux.
>> 
>> In the past Compact Flash (CF) was the most commonly used AstLinux flash 
>> storage, but today some of the newer x86 hardware no longer support CF and 
>> are moving to mSATA and 2.5" SATA.
>> 
>> I did a survey of my various boxes with SATA drives (2.5", mSATA and DOM)
>> ===========================
>> - Emphase D1VHSD001G0 (DOM) 2 GB SLC
>> Write Cache: enabled
>> 
>> - Emphase FD2510SI8G (2.5") 8 GB SLC
>> Write Cache: disabled (not setable)
>> 
>> - WDC SSD-M0004S-7100 (mSATA) 4 GB SLC
>> Write Cache: enabled
>> 
>> - ADATA SP600 (2.5") 32 GB MLC
>> Write Cache: enabled
>> ===========================
>> 
>> And sure enough if I do a
>> $ echo "Testing..." > /mnt/kd/test
>> 
>> and pull the power plug, the /mnt/kd/test file does not exist on reboot.  
>> And before anyone asks :-) a journeled ext3 filesystem does not help here 
>> since the new "data" is only in the drive's volatile RAM.
>> 
>> The "write cache" does increase write performance, and for a general 
>> computer, database, etc. this is desired.  But, for the case of AstLinux I'm 
>> not sure if this extra performance gain is needed.
>> 
>> There are a few solutions:
>> 
>> 1) Use an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS). Personally I do this by using 
>> an inexpensive UPS supplying battery backup to the AstLinux box, cable modem 
>> and main ethernet switch.  AstLinux monitors the UPS status.
>> 
>> 2) Use SSD's that default to "Write Cache: disabled" (rarely found) or have 
>> a "Host Power Loss Protection" as with: 
>> http://www.logicsupply.com/components/storage/solid-state-drives-ssd/q6mp6g030-2/
>> 
>> 3) Set "Write Cache: disabled" at startup for such afflicted drives.
>> 
>> Solutions 1 and 2 are self explanatory, so let's discuss 3...
>> 
>> As far as I know, the "hdparm" command is the only way to disable the 
>> drive's write cache.  I can't find a kernel driver option or kernel command 
>> line option to do that.
>> 
>> AstLinux uses the Busybox version of hdparm, and as such the following code 
>> seems like a fairly safe way to disable the write cache:
>> --
>> DRIVE="$(findfs LABEL=RUNNIX)"
>> DRIVE="${DRIVE%[0-9]}"
>> if [ -n "$DRIVE" ]; then
>> if hdparm -I "$DRIVE" 2>/dev/null | grep -q -i 
>> '^[[:space:]]*[*][[:space:]]*write cache[[:space:]]*$'; then
>> if hdparm -W0 "$DRIVE" >/dev/null; then
>>  echo "Disabled write cache for drive: $DRIVE"
>> fi
>> fi
>> fi
>> --
>> Now, using the hdparm command should not be taken lightly, and you might ask 
>> what happens to any active cache when the "hdparm -W0 ..." is issued, good 
>> question.  Some possibilities are:
>> 
>> 1) Do it early enough on boot before data writes occur.
>> 
>> 2) Some SSD firmware will do the correct thing.
>> 
>> 3) Try to flush any active cache.
>> 
>> The Busybox version of hdparm has code to automatically flush the cache when 
>> a "hdparm -W0 ..." is issued, but is disabled in all versions of Busybox...
>> --
>> #undef DO_FLUSHCACHE            /* under construction: force cache flush on 
>> -W0 */
>> --
>> No doubt there is a general problem with doing this.
>> 
>> So, what should we do in AstLinux ?  If anything.
>> All comments welcomed.
>> 
>> Lonnie
>> 
>> 
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