Thinking about this more, I think it makes sense to add virtio-blk support.  
Michael Keuter concurs as well.

I talked with the Vultr support, and they were crystal clear that they will 
only support virtio-blk and not virtio-scsi in the predictable future.

There are pros/cons for either virtio-blk/virtio-scsi, it does not seem like 
either is going away any time soon.

I think it is worth the trouble to add support for virtio-blk in genx86_64-vm 
(also handle /dev/vd[a-d] in runnix, runnix-iso, and initrd).

Lonnie



> On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:10 AM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote:
> 
> But Astlinux could be built with that.  My own personal custom build I have 
> CONFIG_VIRTIO_BLK=m set.  I don't know if having it as a module would be good 
> enough.  I do not build the install ISO however... is that necessary for 
> Vultr or can you start from the raw image?
> 
> David
> 
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:23 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
> wrote:
> Sadly, https://www.vultr.com does not work with AstLinux since they require 
> virtio-blk disk driver support, while AstLinux uses virtio-scsi drivers.
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> 
> 
> > On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > For fun, I am testing Vultr, the web interface is nice and adding our VM 
> > ISO is very simple.
> > 
> > But, I can't get the base storage to mount, they say they use SCSI_VIRTIO, 
> > which we support.
> > 
> > I'll report back when I learn more.
> > 
> > Lonnie
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Aug 22, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Christopher, good points ... thanks for sharing your experience.
> >> 
> >> Michael, I ran across a Linode-like provider "Vultr", with a Sydney 
> >> location.  Until today I have never heard of them (just my ignorance I 
> >> suspect).
> >> 
> >> https://www.vultr.com/pricing/
> >> 
> >> Vultr looks like it should work with an AstLinux ISO, but don't know for 
> >> sure until someone tries.
> >> https://www.vultr.com/features/uploadiso/
> >> 
> >> Lonnie
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Aug 22, 2018, at 7:33 AM, The Cadillac Kid via Astlinux-users 
> >>> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> the big issue i have with AWS is no ability t ogain console access when 
> >>> needed to get things working right. I have quite a few servers running on 
> >>> AWS, however my Asterisk servers are not among them..  AWS doesnt do real 
> >>> well at limiting someones Rogue instance and i had issues with latencies 
> >>> and jitter when running a decent size system on AWS..  I havent attempted 
> >>> astlinux specifically but we ended up building out our own metal for our 
> >>> cloud solutions and havent had any issues since..
> >>> -Christopher
> >>> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 3:25:22 AM EDT, David Kerr 
> >>> <da...@kerr.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I have tried and failed with AWS and Google.  The issue appears to be a 
> >>> requirement for GRUB bootloader.
> >>> 
> >>> David 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Michael Knill 
> >>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
> >>> Hi Lonnie
> >>> 
> >>> Not too good Im afraid. AWS is certainly the go for me:
> >>> 
> >>> PING speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com (139.162.65.37): 56 data bytes
> >>> 
> >>> --- speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com ping statistics ---
> >>> 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
> >>> round-trip min/avg/max = 105.966/106.090/106.254 ms
> >>> PING speedtest.singapore.linode.com (139.162.23.4): 56 data bytes
> >>> 
> >>> --- speedtest.singapore.linode.com ping statistics ---
> >>> 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
> >>> round-trip min/avg/max = 97.833/97.970/98.255 ms
> >>> 
> >>> PING dynamodb.ap-southeast-2. amazonaws.com (52.94.13.132): 56 data bytes
> >>> 
> >>> --- dynamodb.ap-southeast-2. amazonaws.com ping statistics ---
> >>> 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
> >>> round-trip min/avg/max = 7.004/7.125/7.217 ms
> >>> 
> >>> Regards
> >>> Michael Knill
> >>> 
> >>> On 22/8/18, 12:24 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>   Hi Michael,
> >>> 
> >>>   No I haven't, but it does look like you can import VMware images.
> >>> 
> >>>   I really like Linode for AstLinux in the cloud, but sadly there is no 
> >>> Linode locations in Australia (yet).
> >>> 
> >>>   If you wouldn't mind, hows does the latency compare for you:
> >>> 
> >>>   Linode - Asia Pacific (Tokyo)
> >>>   ping -q -c10 speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com
> >>> 
> >>>   Linode - Asia Pacific (Singapore)
> >>>   ping -q -c10 speedtest.singapore.linode.com
> >>> 
> >>>   AWS - Asia Pacific (Sydney)
> >>>   ping -q -c10 dynamodb.ap-southeast-2. amazonaws.com
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>   Lonnie
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Aug 21, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Michael Knill <michael.knill@ipcsolutions. 
> >>>> com.au> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Wow it looks hard to install Astlinux in EC2. You have to build it 
> >>>> locally and import.
> >>>> Has anyone done this?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Michael Knill
> >>> 
> > 
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