David: This is making it really hard. To me a list of adopters is promoting the project not the adopters. Typically the adopters have more than their share of adoption already. A smaller project like ATF needs the adoption love to be shown. You are the WTP PMC, so I respect your call there and I understand the concern and the need for neutrality. :-) Hey, I will satisfy myself with "ATF sightings" some blog posts then :-P a la Swing sightings.
-- Cheers Philippe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David M Williams Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:37 PM To: 'AJAX Toolkit Framework discussion' Subject: RE: [atf-dev] atf releated news >Would a set of wiki pages be acceptable? No, I don't see how that's any different. I think there's better ways to promote the project ... demo's, tutorials, and "eclipse live" session, etc. And .. of course, you can always encourage the adopters to in turn promote the project! But, I don't see a list of adopters as anything but promotion of the adopters. "Philippe Ombredanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/19/2007 08:02 PM Please respond to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To "'AJAX Toolkit Framework discussion'" <[email protected]> cc David M Williams/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: [atf-dev] atf releated news David: Thanks for the guidance. Would a set of wiki pages be acceptable? I am not looking to promote or advertize any company over another BUT I do value immensely adopters which are willing to step forward to tell us that they are building products on top of ATF. I think it is important to users and future adopters to get some exmaples of real life products based on ATF. For me it is part of the very basic things that help promote the project, not the adopters. Cordially -- Cheers Philippe -----Original Message----- From: David M Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AJAX Toolkit Framework discussion Subject: RE: [atf-dev] atf releated news >> [...] - is there an existing page with adopters ? > Not yet... you will have the first shot! Actually, there is! And, Max can still have first shot. :) as ATF is currently empty. See http://www.eclipse.org/membership/exploreMembership.php Also note, we in the WTP PMC have previously discussed pages, links, and logos of adopters and contributors from our Project pages, and decided not do it. If we ever did do it, we'd have to develop some uniformity policies to make sure it wouldn't encourage or be used for commercials. In fact, a similar topic has recently caused a small flame war on another mailing list (modeling pmc) so I know this is a divisive topic (and I don't want the flame war repeated here :) Luckily, in this case, Eclipse Membership provides a uniform way to do it so we at individual project levels don't have to worry about it.
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