On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd <b...@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Matthew Miller <mat...@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter <acar...@redhat.com> wrote: >>> Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. >>> We're getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on Tuesday >>> and Dusty Mabe has raised 2 potential release blockers that were not part >>> of automated testing. It's good that he caught them, but it's also a bit of >>> a stroke of luck. Since there is no official QE for this release, who >>> should own verifying that there are no release blocking bugs prior to every >>> automated release and escalating if there are? If no one raises the >>> blocker, we'll have no way to block the release. >> >> Other than adding "making sure that anything found manually gets tests >> added so it doesn't reoccur", I don't have much to add to this except >> for saying that I also recognize the need. >> >> Paul Frields tells me that no one on his team (Fedora Infrastructure >> Engineering) is in the right position to do this overall. That team -- >> along with Fedora Release Engineering -- has been working on making >> sure that the release artifacts get constructed, but aren't experts in >> what goes _in_ them. (It's nice that we're at the point where the >> problems are on the inside, I guess!) >> >> I think it needs to be someone who is deeply connected to the teams >> working on Atomic development, but who is also given this is a core >> responsibility and guaranteed the time for making sure things work in >> Fedora specifically. > > This is a very small community of people to choose from. Can we figure out a > way to skew this so that we can ramp someone up? For example, I would > consider offering to help, and I think my manager would give me some time to > do the work, but I am not connected to all of these Fedora teams. If we find > someone who is deep in 1-2 teams have some committed folks to ramp them up we > can both solve this problem and grow our number of people able to do this > kind of work.
I'd be happy to fill the gaps from the Fedora side to the best of my abilities. I also look forward to using the interaction as an opportunity to learn more about the finer points of Atomic. -AdamM > > regards, > > bex > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cl...@lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/cl...@lists.fedoraproject.org
