Hi all,
Not sure if this is the right place as the Magnum folks are primarily using the
Fedora Atomic images as their base but I was recently pointed to this IRC
discussion where the Magnum folks outlined some of their concerns resulting
from interacting with the Atomic images which are causing them to look
elsewhere:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-containers/%23openstack-containers.2016-02-15.log.html
This is in some ways a continuation of this earlier thread:
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/thread.html#85699
Trying to boil down the comments into a summary:
* Depending on timing age of components in Fedora Atomic leads to a need for
Magnum folks to rebuild image, at least until such time as more of the pieces
are containerized (k8s/etcd/flanel) [1].
* Rebuild image documentation lacks troubleshooting information (I encountered
this myself, there are plenty of places for things to go off the rails in the
compose and create-vm-disk steps and the tooling provides very limited error
output in some cases).
* Lack of clarity around if or when originally proposed build cadences will be
hit for Fedora Atomic - I think this was originally proposed as 2-weekly but
it's hard to tell if that has actually been hit to an outsider. To me it looks
like yes [2] but do we record anywhere when a new build was pushed out to the
mirrors as the current stable?
* Doesn't really feel like an active global community versus e.g. CoreOS. I
know this is a challenging thing to "solve" but I list it as it is part of
their concern, I myself have asked a question in the #atomic IRC and it was
eventually answered but only when US East coast folks were up and awake again.
I know this is very high level feedback in many cases and difficult to action
but wanted to highlight it . Scott has already answered my query on the Fedora
cloud list w.r.t. containerization plans for the services mentioned which I
think would help Magnum folks a lot [1], and I see we are apparently now doing
two-weekly updates to the Fedora cloud image [2] though as I mentioned it would
be great if we can illustrate the history of this in terms of regular builds
produced/pushed.
Thanks,
Steve
[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/XICO4NJCTPI43AWG332EIM2HNFYPZ6ON/
[2]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/KANIESSBHRZADVAQQZKK2AOC4PL76LD3/
