On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:01:41PM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On 4/12/07, Axel Thimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:56:33AM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > I'm not aware if freshrpms and atrpms fedora repositories are deltarpm > > > compatible, so please tell me :) > > > > I don't really know what it takes to be compatible. Do you mean > > whether deltarpms are produced? Then no, there are none. > > > > If you mean whether there is a base package set to have as a starting > > diff for creating deltarpms, then there isn't one either. But since it > > works with Fedora Extras (which also has no release/updates structure > > like Core) it should work in theory with ATrpms, too. > > > > > Please help support this project so it goes through beta testing and > > > gets full support in Fedora 7. This project needs you! > > > > Currently ATrpms undergoes a lot of infrastructure changes, so it is > > not something I can put very high on the TODO list (I have currently > > no idea how involved that might be on both administration and run time > > resources). Since it's coming with F7 the earliest maybe it's better > > to wait until then and ping again? > > > > > > I'm pinging at your request :)
You mean F7 started to ship deltarpms? I didn't mean the tools becoming available, but some big repo going through the maturing phase. :=) > I hope you got a lot of stuff done for Fedora 7 or you are near the > end of it. I'm just installing Fedora 7 test 4 on my other machine > while writing this mail. > > I can't tell you all you need to do to make ATrpms compatible with > deltarpm and yum-presto plugin but I asked Jonathan Dieter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, the mainainer of yum-presto plugin to join this > lists so he can provide some much needed input. OK. I still don't know the mechanics behind it, but it surely needs at least two rpms of the same package to create diffs (BTW does it create N*(N-1)/2 deltas if there are N old packages around?). The problem is that ATrpms' update scripts create the new repo in a speparate stage w/o looking at the old one and then swap it in place. Anyway, we'll see. > I can only say that deltarpm is a great idea, and works great in practice. > > It is maybe little less needed for repos like yours because people > mainly download from you, and update is secondary. But also when new > packages arrive then old packages will be updated. > > You should think how to enable more and more people to use linux, and > great repos like yours is a really big benefit to fedora users. > > There are millions of people with dialup and other slow connections on > our planet and updates for them are almost impossible. Or students > with laptops who can do some big installs when they are at ther > university but at home have also slow connection. > > For all of them bandwidth is scarce and deltarpms is a great solution > to that problem so please do all you can with implementing it. > > Thank you in advance. > > Valent from Croatia. > -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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