Hi Stefan, 2016-07-26 19:44 GMT+02:00 Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca>: >> Still, this workaround seem a little odd to me. First, It seems odd that I >> can't start AUCTeX "when I want", i.e., by using the line (load "auctex.el" >> nil t t), even though this worked for me in previous versions of auctex >> (11.89 and 11.88). > > Packaging in ELPA aims to follow the way packages bundled with Emacs are > handled, such that they're not "started" automatically, but they are > automatically setup so that you can "start" them by just invoking their > functionality (e.g. loading a .tex file). > >> Second, it also seems a little odd that I can't do something like >> (require 'auctex) or (use-package auctex), even though I can load all >> my other 30+ packages that way. The concept of having nothing in my >> .emacs and the package still being expected to work definitely >> confused me at the beginning. > > The only standard/supported way to setup an ELPA package in general is > to load its <pkg>-autoloads.el file (that's what package-initialize does > usually). In practice, from what you say, loading <pkg>.el tends to > work as well, but that's mostly an accident. > > This said, AUCTeX has historically been enabled by (load "tex-site") or > (load "auctex"), so it would make sense for AUCTeX's package to support > this. I thought it worked, but your bug-report shows that it doesn't. > > The (untested) patch/hack below might help cases like yours. > I'm not sure if AUCTeX's maintainers want to go that route or would > prefer to just detect the case and emit a warning instead to try and > help people follow the standard installation method.
Sorry, I don't quite understand the purpose of the patch. Is it intended for the ELPA version of AUCTeX or for the upstream package? The fact that the package is against tex-site.el in ELPA makes me think it's for the ELPA version of AUCTeX. In that case, I don't have any objection against trying to make the installation easier for users (even if I don't know how the current installation method via ELPA can be defined as "hard"). Bye, Mosè _______________________________________________ auctex-devel mailing list auctex-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex-devel