Re: Jgt and nvda 2019.3.
Interesting you should bring that up actually.
We have been having a lot of descussion on the main group based on that thing.
Nvda 2020 will or should be the next version out.
But here's the thing.
Even though 2019.3 was semi penned to the public in december or close to that and entered beta, as I understand it, every addon author would have to change their documentation and versions and other thing to 2020 as minimal.
Plus all paperwork for 1903 has been done and no one is interested in updating that.
There have been addon infrastructure upgrades and a lot of updates round 1903, and a lot of stuff done round 1903 that to change it now just well its not something people want to do.
I personally think when we released the release being that it was so fucking close to december when the version came close to going golden that it should have been updated to 2020.
Look at amd, the latest driver is 2020 series except it was the second and 3rd release of december.
That can't be coincidence
Point is we have done to much to rerelease not that thats the only issue.
There are a lot of movements in the organisation.
One of these big movements is joseph lee, the main moderator of win10 main, win 10 insiders, the entire win10 echosystemm, and a incubater and writer of several addons.
About 2 years back he indicated he was feeling a bit overworked and would have to leave at some point.
Now last year he announced that he wanted to release a lot of his incubated projects, drop off a lot of extras to the community, and pull back on his leadership role in the organisation and has started trying to get his successer.
There are other restructuring factors going on to.
Point is, with everything from the organisation to the reader in a reasonable sized upgrade and transition, I don't think anyone has the stomach to chop and change and fair enough.
Some who use 19.2.1 will notice some latest versions of addons at the 20 series not working because they need a new version of a program which is still at beta 1 and may not be released for some time.
I have asked about being a release out, but if we don't get a release this month or between february and march, I would suspect that we will either release soon and quickfire in april/may for the 2020 first release of win10 to pop before popping ourselves, or we will wait till 2020 then pop that version then.
As it stands there is no real rush at the moment to push out an update right now.
In fact for the forseeable future maybe up to 6 months to a year after updates there plans to be a transition where development of older systems will continue.
And while there are a few users that have no issues, there are still a lot that have a lot of major issues which may explain why its locked at beta 1 and has been since the end of november.
This is a fucking huge update, no one wants it to hose itself especially since this thing is for everyone from poor to wealthy, from blind and helpless, to fully assisted.
This is a global thing, its a new engine, a new platform, a new language and a lot of reorganisation of the speech system has been doodled with.
For some addons there is a lot to change for others not so much.
There is even a plan in the future to allow some addons that don't need to access some functions to skip some of the compatability checks and just work but thats a rough thing and not much has been planned or rather put publically.
Point is with a python going to 3x and a lot of library upgrades going on nvaccess is taking the opertunity to do a big upgrade itself.
I suspect this has more inner workings than we could ever imagine, and to chop and change right now just is not feesable right now.
If what they say is true and we are really close or done on a lot of things then who knows.
There is a lot for example of moving everything on bitbucket and a lot of older systems to git and this seems to have speeded up.
Of course, we won't know exactly when release is supposed to come till the translations and minor code changes freez for the stable locked in version release.
Before it does that, we need to go to beta 2 3 4 5 and so on usually 3-4 betas, then hit the rc 1-2-3-4 branch which would indicate a stable roleout.
After we hit rc and once its sorted out and translations are locked we literally have a couple weeks or less it will be a matter of time till the release comes.
As far as I know we are in beta1 and there are still a lot of alpha branches running for the version because people are still testing alpha so it should pick up.
Saying that, all traffic on all lists seems to have gone quiet, and what there is seems to focus on the restructure so I suspect those that need are working hard on actually getting the release out tothe next level.
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