Rather than mess up the jitter thread, I thought that I would bring to light this post on some other forum that one of my "spies" told me about.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1688461#post1688461 Now, I do not know this individual. In fact, looking at his public profile, I can tell that he works for a high-end outfit that would never be one of my consulting gigs. Having said that, here is the crux of his post: > The audio conspiracy theorists raise my hackles only slightly less. They > claim, because they cannot hear something, and that no one has found a > way to QUANTIFY the unquantifiable, that it must not be. Some things that we can tell sound different, but we can not measure. Other things we can measure, but can not correlate how they are *perceived*. Translation: Do wires sound different? Sadly, yes. Why? No idea. Does not mean that differences do not exist. Or that they are not extremely minor or subtle. Or, is jitter audible? Not really, but its absence is. How much? We think that we know, but not every system, or every listener, is capable of discerning it. Yes, could be a very subtle effect. But, it does not mean that it is non-existent if it is not detectable 100% of the time with 100% of all listeners in 100% of all systems. Some folks, for whatever reason, do have a knack for discerning these subtle differences. Has nothing to do with intelligence, education, or experience. Sometimes, those are a hindrance. The designers that I associate with also seem to be able to discern these differences. Many of them have gone on to make some of the most successful gear on the market. But, there are guys who probably can't tell the difference who have also made successful gear, but do so based solely on business acumen and the ability to mass-manufacture. So, who do believe? (Or, who do you ignore?) Damn good question! The lone prophet in the wilderness, penniless yet adamant. Or the mogul with tons of money to burn and the ability to burn their message into your head? Well, I would say "the lone prophet". Except that the 'Net is full of them, and most are wrong most of the time. Having said all of that, if you don't believe that it is audible (and it might not be!), then try to find out for yourself. Debating "lone prophets" like me won't change your mind. And I do not intend to change your mind. Only to make it open to the possibility that it is audible. If you chose to not seek out the answer, either because it is more convenient to debate its absence, or too complacent to really care, then please feel free to remain satisfied. But, please, don't tell me what I can or can not hear. I can neither draw, play an instrument or take a decent picture. I doubt that I could tell a Bordeaux from a claret. "A Bordeaux -is- a claret." I rest my case. A corollary to all of this: I have been telling folks for over 15 years that the length of a digital cable does make a difference. Wanna guess how many told me that I am a nutter? Today, for probably the only time, on this very forum(!) in fact, someone has confirmed this by actually trying it. The fact that they don't remember where they heard it is moot. They heard about, and had the gumption to try it. Rather than tell me I am wrong and/or nuts. Chalk one up for the Lone Prophet. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56712 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles