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Tim,
 
Q1:
Because of the problem with definitions most groups I work with perform three types of work: 1) Infrastructure reviews (infrastructure is all that you need to support business processes [applications] hence includes OSs, Networks, Database Systems, Policy, Physical, Logical, Continuity, Change Management, Incident Management etc. 2) Hindsight reviews - reviews of control architecture of existing business processes 3) Farsight reviews - reviews of business processes, systems and applications under development or proposed for development.
 
Q2:
The point behind a trial (contingency) is that it is a proof of concept / proof of working without it you will never know... and that's not a smart risk to take
 
Yes, trials can be costly, but some would regard that as a cost essential to running your business. Try and imagine a business that would run a factory based manufacturing operation without testing out the factory processes first. They wouldn't would they?
 
So to reduce the cost think about these things:
 
Start with small scaled down trials first - partial tests of part of the system
Then try different combinations of elements
And gradually piece together the framework...
 
And by the way, you've already got part of your answer - it lies in risk - your words tell the story: "My reply was it's nearly impossible, and certainly cost prohibitive, to perform a hot site - test of this complex network.  (key words being distributed systems....) "
 
Wouldn't it be cost prohibitive to accept not having a fall back capability? You woudn't be the first company to go to the wall after a disaster. The statistics in 1996 (yes, a little old) were that four out of five companies who failed to recover smoothly after a disaster were not in business a year after the event.
 
Best regards,
Stan Dormer
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Sent: 01 March 2002 17:04
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Subject: Two IT related questions:


This is my first post to the list and thank in advance for the help.

Q1 - Can anybody give me a definition for an IT general controls review (audit)?
(My audit director is struggling with a the level of detail involved with a 'general controls review' verses a normal and more extensive detailed review of the same areas:  IE - SOPS, computer system operations, logical security, physical security, DR (or BCP), etc.)

Help!!!

Q2 - In performing this general controls review, I've looked at business continuity planning for a division running distributed systems (well over 100+ servers, no mainframes, mid-frames, etc.).    The audit manager is asking "why don't they have Disaster Recovery TEST of their systems"?

My reply was it's nearly impossible, and certainly cost prohibitive, to perform a hot site - test of this complex network.  (key words being distributed systems....) 

So here is the question:  Other than a 'talk-through/walk-through is there any other way to practically 'test' a DR plan for a distributed network?   (the thought of buying servers simply for the use in a DR test is not viable...)

once again - HELP!!!

Thanks for the support

Tim

Timothy P. O'Brien
Senior IT Auditor
Ball Corporation
(303)-460-3756
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