Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 05 Dec 2010 13:47 -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, PyroPeter <abi1...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 12/05/2010 03:11 AM, Xyne wrote: > > > > > >> I'm halfway tempted to create the flowchart but I just don't have the > > >> time. If > > >> someone wants to adapt the dot file from the Arch Linux Help Guide > > >> Flowchart, > > >> feel free: > > >> > > >> > > >> http://xyne.archlinux.ca/miscellaneous/#the-arch-linux-help-guide-flowchart > > >> > > >> Make sure that "Blame Allan" is in there somewhere (Was quorum reached? > > >> --no--> > > >> Blame Allan --> etc) > > >> > > > > > > I created a flowchart about the Standard Voting Procedure [1], but I had > > > problems understanding this bit: > > > > > > > A simple majority is needed to pass or reject the motion. In the > > > > event of a draw, being that 50% is not a majority, the motion does > > > > not pass. > > > > > > Isn't "reject" the same as "does not pass"? > > > And what means "being that 50% is not a majority"? (50% of what?) > > > > > > As I showed in the graph, I understood the quoted text as follows: > > > > > > > If more than 50% of the votes cast for YES, the motion passes, > > > > if not, it is rejected. > > > > That's the correct interpretation. A simple majority requires *greater* than > > 50% of the votes cast which is what the part up above was trying to express. > > "Did more than 50% of the votes cast for YES?" > should be changed to: > "Are the number of YES votes greater than the number of NO votes?" > > Remember abstained votes don't count as votes.
I've never read it that way. If "abstain" counts towards the quorum then it counts towards the total number of votes. A simple majority must therefore be more than half of all the votes, i.e. > 1/2 * (yes + no + abstain). If it wasn't that way then 1 person could vote yes and everyone else could abstain yet the motion would still pass. I think a greater show of confidence than 1 "yes" vote should be required before giving someone access to [community] and the AUR. Basically, a TU application should be accepted base on a threshold level of confidence, not an absence of opposition. Requiring a simple majority of those who participate in the vote achieves that. Regardless, it's clear that the bylaws need to be amended.