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Hi John,

 I could not agree more I would be more than happy to pay a  reasonable
yearly fee ,that was not really what I was objecting to.

Consider this- this  particular clubs costs do not change wether or not I
keep a caravan there (there are always dozens of empty sites) and I have to
travel 180 Kilometres to get there so I do require accomodation. Such items
as powerpoints have been there for 10 years+ (and fully depreciated I would
expect).

As for a nightly fee this should reflect the true cost of power and such
items as showers etc. At the most $10 should easily cover these sort of
costs and make a profit. Your example is a good solution.

If these charges were applied to non members visiting, fair enough but clubs
that are running out of members should be doing everything to keep costs to
their members down and the fact is membership is in a constant decline
indicates to me that cost is a major factor.

The fact is most gliding clubs own all their non flying assets apart from
the airfield and they were paid off in the 60s and 70s a fact always ignored
by those who write trite analysies on how expensive Passenger flights  and
aircraft hire should be.

Incidentally I am strongly of the opinion all GFA sanctioned gliding clubs
should be required to provide passenger flights to the public at reasonable,
if neccassary regulated cost to not do so is an abrigation of responsibilty
to promote our dying sport.

The final straw was the fact that the application for membership form had a
section basically saying the club could disallow you flying with no reason
at any time with no refunds of fee's etc-Directly contradicting a specific
clause in their own constitution forbiding exactly that!!!!!!


Regards all

Dav
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] CAUTION about Cross modal
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> | Hi Guys,
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> |
> | 5.In respect to falling GFA membership it is IMHO due to
> greed on the part
> | of the bigger commercial clubs particularly-I have just
> changed clubs due to
> | the outrageous charges for accomodation, and the fact I
> will not pay a club
> | more than one joining fee, especially when other clubs
> don't even charge a
> | joining fee how can such someone who has already
> joined-its a flat out
> | ripoff. Another example at the club I have left there is a
> charge of $200+
> | per year just to leave a caravan there, not to mention $26
> PER NIGHT if you
> | use your own caravan. These people are pricing themselves
> out of existance.
> | The small clubs that do not try to be a business do not
> have as much of a
> | problem as I see it.
>
> Dav,
> The annual charge for parking a caravan is quite justified.
> Who paid to have the land available ?  Who paid to prepare
> the area for caravans, including (in our case) power outlets
> for those caravans ?  Don't they have any right to receive
> some interest on their outlay ?
> The $26 per night in addition seems  a bit steep.  We charge
> for electricity usage with meters on each caravan supply
> point.
>
> Unfortunately, it seems that the gliding fraternity wants
> all the best facilities at little or no cost.  It won't work
> guys !
>
> John G.   (Mangalore GC, and Locksley Fly-In Estate)
>
>
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