Thanks Jarek. I checked out the Geelong Club list and it is very comprehensive . . pity it doesn't have altitude included . . makes me wonder if someone out there has seriously added to this file and could offer to upload it for us all??
Cheers, Jim Kelly VMFG. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within capture zone of airfield? | Jim, | | It can be found on our web site: http://www.gliding-in-melbourne.org/ . | Please follow to the Resources page and then the Australian Turnpoints link. | Unfortunately I cannot say how up-to-date the list is. | | Regards | Jarek Mosiejewski | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Jim Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:24 PM | Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within capture zone | of airfield? | | | > Has anyone coordinated/updated GPS data in Victoria recently? I | > understand that the Geelong Gliding Club (Bacchus Marsh) may have a | > good database? This could be the basis for a landout and task planning | > manual in our region. | > | > Thanks | > | > Jim Kelly | > VMFG. | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Ian McPhee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:35 AM | > Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within | > capture zone of airfield? | > | > | > | I believe the plan within gliding in Oz is to use more | > airfields/airstrips | > | as turnpoints rather than the silos which were needed for the photo | > days. | > | Unfortunately comp organizers tend not to put the field elevation in | > | official downloadable data bases so we do not get the benefit of | > full | > | capabilities of our systems. Both the older Cambridge LNAV GPS-NAV | > system | > | and the new 302/303 and many other systems work real easy for glide | > to | > | landing place if it is in the official data base contains landing | > place | > | elevation. | > | Ian McPhee | > | Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481 Australia | > | Tel +61 (0)2 66 847 642 Mob +61 (0)428 847 642 | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Alan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 8:39 AM | > | Subject: RE: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within | > capture zone | > | of airfield? | > | | > | | > | > I understand in Europe the cost of outlanding is almost | > prohibitive, so | > | > flying always within the capture zone of a known 'safe' airfield | > is almost | > | > essential. Roland Poss was in out club several years ago and did | > | > considerable research on outlanding strips and flew always within | > final | > | > glide range of these. | > | > | > | > What would make safe Xcountry gliding simpler would be to not only | > have | > | them | > | > programmed in the flight computer, but an easy interface to a | > B2000 or | > | > similar to confirm when altitude is sufficient to reach the next | > | > airfield/paddock. Say airfields indicated on the iPaq map and | > gliding | > | > distance circles/eclipses at 0 Mac ready centred on current | > position | > | [noting | > | > wind and altitude/terrain!] | > | > | > | > Now there is a challenge. | > | > | > | > Does such a user friendly system exist? | > | > | > | > Alan Wilson | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike | > | > Borgelt | > | > Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2003 7:37 PM | > | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Lake Keepit | > | > Airfield Database | > | > | > | > | > | > At 05:36 PM 28/09/03 +1000, you wrote: | > | > >We at Lake Keepit have been concerned for some time at the | > potential | > | damage | > | > >to Club gliders and pilots from inappropriate paddock choice. | > While we | > | > agree | > | > >with the comments about teaching pilots how to assess paddocks | > (and | > | > continue | > | > >to pursue this) there's no doubt than finding an airfield or ag | > strip is | > | > >normally a much safer option. | > | > > | > | > >Over the last couple of years we have accumulated a register of | > airfields | > | > >and ag strips, including upper air photographs and GPS | > coordinates. A | > | > >loose-leaf book of these outlanding airfields is maintained by | > the Club | > | > with | > | > >as much pertinent data as can be assembled - photos, runway | > direction(s), | > | > >owner name and phone, condition of field, cautionery notes etc. | > Study of | > | > >this file by intending cross country pilots is encouraged. | > | > > | > | > >The Club's turnpoint database for downloading to data | > loggers/GPSs | > | > >incorporates the coordinates for all these known airfields, with | > as much | > | > >descriptive info than can be fitted into GPS data fields to | > assist pilots | > | > >make sensible choices. | > | > > | > | > >Within a rough semicircle of 150km radius we have a database of | > 90 | > | points, | > | > >of which 66 are landable airfields or ag strips. (We have adopted | > | airfields | > | > >as turnpoints, rather than silos or other features, wherever | > available.) | > | > >Most cross country soaring within this area can now be performed | > without | > | > >losing glide slope to a suitable strip. | > | > > | > | > >This will be a feature of the upcoming NSWGA State comp in | > November and | > | > will | > | > >be another safety initiative of the Lake Keepit comp. | > | > > | > | > >The club is indebted to Harry Medlicott whose initiative this has | > been, | > | and | > | > >who has collected the lion's share of the info on these fields. | > This has | > | > >been an important part of his drive to improve safety in gliding, | > which | > | > will | > | > >be strongly empasised in the forthcoming State competition in Nov | > at | > | > Keepit. | > | > > | > | > >Dave Shorter | > | > >email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note no ".au" in address) | > | > >11 Lighthouse Crescent, | > | > >Emerald Beach, | > | > >NSW 2456, Australia | > | > >Phone (02) 6656 1979 | > | > >Fax (02) 6656 2983 | > | > | > | > | > | > I believe Ron Geake has done this at Gympie also. They can now fly | > cross | > | > country while in glide range of suitable airstrips. | > | > | > | > One resource you might consider to do this with is the AOPA | > Airfield | > | guide. | > | > | > | > Mike | > | > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments | > | > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 | > | > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 | > | > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 | > | > Int'l + 61 429 355784 | > | > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com | > | > | > | > | > | > -- | > | > * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. | > | > * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message | > | > * or with "help" in the body of the message for more | > information. | > | > | > | > | > | > -- | > | > * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. | > | > * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message | > | > * or with "help" in the body of the message for more | > information. | > | > | > | | > | | > | -- | > | * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. | > | * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message | > | * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information. | > | | > | > | > | > -- | > * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. | > * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message | > * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information. | > | > | | | -- | * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. | * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message | * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information. | -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information.
