The Allegro is used for towing overseas.

http://www.mcp.com.au/allegro/glider-towing.html

Check it out, i have movies and photos of it on cd also

Thanks Michael Coates

Phil Behnke wrote:
Ron,
 
If the intent is to acquire a tug with both low acquisition costs and "reasonable" operating costs then, as per one of the other answers on this topic, a C150 "up-engined" as per Kingaroy's KML would be a very attractive proposition.  Always there is a dependency on what is to be towed and the airfield environment (length + slope + options in particular) of course.
 
However, it is worth at least some consideration of what the goal is.  Ian McPhee (Byron Gliding Club, NSW) wrote an article on motorglider tugs and why they have such great potential due to the sheer efficiency of the combination and due also to the "harmony" of same.  He has experimented with and 80hp (Jabiru) Falke and I am sure would be happy to discuss.  The Super Dimona, even mine at 100hp (500kg max towing weight), can be a very useful aircraft if a club can find the capital costs.  As per another reply, it towed quite effectively at Waikerie even though no concessions were made in terms of grid position. (The rwy 26 grid was at the bottom of a slope and used only half of the potential length.)  The 115hp machine (600kg max towing weight) can only be better and there are sure to be other engine options down the track. 
 
A motorglider tug has the (obvious to most) advantage that the club gets two aircraft for the price of one.  The value of a motorglider to a club as a training aircraft has been debated by many but probably not since the new breed of aircraft came to be.  The ability to offer members conversion to a fast, safe, modern cruising aircraft and one which can operate in controlled airspace is also a great asset to a club such as ours (Caboolture, Qld) which is near a major population centre.  The operating costs of a modern frp motorglider are also *very* reasonable and almost certainly *much* less than any GA aircraft.
 
Ultralights also are likely to be contenders with aircraft like the CT http://www.flightdesign.com/2000/pages/nws/nws20_world.htm is rated to tow 600kg in Germany.  There are photos around of one dual towing.
 
Last, but certainly not least, is the "autotug" concept where an aircraft (Pawnee at Kingaroy) is repowered by an efficient, powerful, low-cost, cheap to maintain, automotive engine.
 
You may wish to share the goal which prompted your question as I am sure you message will prompt considerable discussion.

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G'Day,

To anyones knowledge, (both here in Australia, and overseas) has anyone ever used a Cessna 150 or TigerMoth for Towing?
(These are very low power acft and available very cheaply)...

This then leads on to the question, if an aircraft is able to be fitted with a hook, how does one work out the engine power requirement? Is it a hit and miss affair? Or is there a calculation that can be done?

Cheers-

Ron.

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