Geoff Kidd wrote:
Terry
 
    The points you have made are valid .. so come back here near the fan, but I would counter with the following:
 
    We don't need to excite the "general population". All we need to do is excite 3000 people OZ-wide and we've just about doubled the size of the sport.
It's a good equation Geoff.  

Perhaps I need to briefly explain my current somewhat gloomy outlook.  It's fostered in part by some aspects of the discussion which took place at my own club's AGM last Saturday night.  Two things struck me.

The first was that a significant part of our flying income goes straight back into insuring our aircraft fleet.   Most members would, I think feel that we are charging enough for flying at present.  It's evident that most of our members (or their wives) will have set a limit as to how much they can spend on gliding.  Putting up fees again is not the answer; people then fly less hours to meet their limits. Hence the gloom about the costs.

The other topic - namely publicizing our sport and increasing our membership also got a very good airing, and this has some bearing on what you have just contributed.

One of the points raised in this discussion was the reported statistic that somehow we do attract 1,000 new members to the sport each year.   The problem is apparently that we also lose 1,000 members each year.  Now I'm not prepared to stake my life on those figures, but I accept that they are presented in good faith by someone who is concerned enough about the situation to glean them.   If they are correct,  it shows that we need to set a focus in retaining more of the members after we go to all the trouble to recruit them.  

Perhaps that too will affect the trend of this again very useful discussion.
    For the "satisfaction now" generation, if they are also the "money now" generation, why wouldn't you just shunt them off to Sportavia or Keepit and they can be solo in a week?
 
    One option that we have is to narrow the marketing target a tad. One example is that while I was at Sportavia last Feb/March, the standout was that the most keen Glider Pilots who had shipped their machines and selves from overseas, were current or ex airline pilots, who were bored to death with their normal flying but kill-to-fly passionate about Cross-Country Soaring. So that group in OZ are a good place to start ............ BUT would you really expect to keep them all if you suggest to a 5000 or 10000 hour airline pilot that they should just go out to their local club for lessons?
I wouldn't.  I feel pretty sure that they wouldn't either.   Again these are all valid points and need to be kept in the picture as we wrestle with the best ways of dealing with the situation.  

There certainly appears to be good case on the face of it for retaining an "all frills included" training operation near to each of the major population centres.   However the initiative for going in this direction almost certainly rests with the existing operators in the appropriate location(s).    Even then, it's a difficult challenge to manage such an operation, and financially it's a venture which history shows has not always been entirely sucessful.  There are compelling reasons why it might be even more fraught in the current socio-ecconomic climate.

Regards,
Terry



 
Regards Geoff
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

Geoff Kidd wrote:
<>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Membership: It’s not a pretty picture".
It may however be totally accurate - for here - as well as for New Zealand.

That's the scary thing about writing out a blank cheque for a group of consultants, as some are advocating.   Some 100+K$ later they will almost certainly come up with the conclusion that gliding doesn't really interest, much less excite the general population, and that other "competing" pastimes come easier and/or cheaper.

We already know that, and it hasn't cost us anything (in monetary terms).

One of the things that the combined magazine should have taught us is that gliding is pricing itself out of the sporting aviation scene, or at least putting itself at the higher end of the options.   Compare the prices in the hang gliding classifieds with those of our kind, and you soon get a picture of the relative costs of the equipment.

Furthermore, the price of the basic equipment sets the base line for the cost of the complete operation.  The simply fact is that a K-21 costs more that (say) a Jabiru, and if you want to put an engine in the K-21 - surely the only way to really set up even a basic training regime for the "Satisfaction Now!!" generation - it gets even worse.  There isn't really much we can do about that.

I don't particularly like to see this in print myself, but all the publicity, promotion and research doesn't change the basic facts of the equation.  Gliding these days is expensive; it also takes time, effort and a certain dedication to 'make it'.   Only an enthusiast is going to see it through - even to solo stage - much less to go on to greater things.

Most people will make easier and cheaper choices - no matter what we do, and how many consultants we hire, and what they tell us.

Of course we still promote the sport we love, and  we need to do so with the same enthusiasm and passion we show in our inner circle here.  Terry Cubley and the others who are working in this area are doing well, and should be supported with ideas and action.    However we need to keep our expectations and ambitions within the parameters of our product.   Almost everyone I speak to about gliding expresses the wish to "go for a flight sometime".   However I just know that even if they do - and I give every encouragement for them to go to their nearest club and give it a try - that they probably won't be seized with the elusive addiction that keeps the rest of us going over the years and even decades.

That's just how it is.

Now standing well clear of the fan  .....
Terry


 

 



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