Mike, No point in trying to spread the politics of whether its going to happen or not - the decision is next year and we will all see. As for fitment of $10,000 plus into gliders - where did you get that figure from? A typical ADS-B squitter only transmitter in a handheld is $3,200.00 - you can buy one from our web site if you like.When , and we are talking 5 or more years, gliding is ready for this I can see the cost down to under $1,000 as already U blox have an approved GPS with another company that is 1/4 the price of the current TSO'd navigators and is TSO'd.
As for free fitment - there is a tender for 1500 G.A aircraft going out this month - installed for free! And as for www.collisionavoidance.org this guys been banding around this for several years , in one form or another. Really, do you think anyone is going to play around with valve based transponders ( like in his photo's ) which is illegal and violates the TSO authority of the unit , and , what he doesn't tell you is that it will not work on mode A /C transistor or fet based finals - they can't handle the duty cycle! The MTBF is not acceptable, as you need mode S type devices that can handle the extra transmission , I know , we tried to use an existing T2000 and blew up 10 devices in the process. Regards Nigel Andrews Technical Director Avionics Australasia Pty Ltd "A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development, Avionics manufacturing and sales in aviation electronics" Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.avionicsaustralasia.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **************DISCLAIMER************ The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:58 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] More information on Flarm At 08:57 PM 6/09/05 +1000, you wrote: > > >From what Migel Andrews has been saying, it is relatively easy to add >ADS-B reception to FLARM. This will give the gliding world information >about what the rest of aviation is doing in the sky around them, but it >won't give the rest of aviation information about the gliders in the >sky. Adding ADS-B transmit is a problem in terms of power usage, but I >can see another prolem too. If gliders start xmitting ADS-B info (in >addition to FLARM), it will be necessary to suppress the ADS-B info >from other gliders to prevent alarms going off all over the place in >gaggles and such. > > Having read the article posted here a week or so ago (written by >someone in GA I think - I can't find the article in the archive), I am >not sure that the rest of the aviation world is quite aware of the >problems that ADS-B has for glider operations. > -- Robert Hart >[EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)438 385 533 Brisbane, Australia > http://www.hart.wattle.id.au Robert, There are some interesting politics around the introduction of ADSB. IF, and it is IF as yet, it is fitted free into GA and sports aircraft it is envisaged that this will be paid for by the major airlines and IFR system users continuing to pay higher fees for some time until this fit is paid for. Oh, look, a squadron of pigs just flew by! Alternatively, why would Airservices shell out for this when they could make more money by having CASA mandate the ADSB fit and get the aircraft owners to fit it at their own expense? Keeps their IFR and airline customers happy too. Note also the regional airlines have their enroute charges rebated by the government(like the Flying Doctor) so these users don't get to save anything by Airservices saving money on radar replacement. The latest Australian Aerospace has an article by Paul Phelan on this. If ADSB is mandated, better start saving for the A$10,000 or so it will cost for Alice. Note: even if all present aircraft are subsidised for ADSB fit, future ones won't be which will about double or more the cost of avionics for a new glider or homebuilt. Also don't forget taking it to an approved avionics facility every two years for checking. Take a good look at at www.collisionavoidance.org and read the links. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
