They can in Australia also. Keep watching. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 10:23 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: membership
At 09:13 PM 18/12/05 +1030, you wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From:Mark Newton > > >>Absolutely yes, it is. >> >>Tug pilots need Commercial Pilots Licenses, and are hired on a >>charter basis. > >A slight correction to Marks post. > >Tug pilots don't _need_ to be CPL in the US. However, unless they are >CPL they can't fly for "hire and reward". >Because of the system of area offices (which sometimes have their own >interpretations of the US FARs) _some_ area offices deem flying hours >themselves to be a form of reward (free flying = reward). >So (as I understand) the crazy situation exists where in some areas PPL >tow pilots can fly if they are not paid, and in others they may not and >a CPL is required! > >Yes, it is more dificult over there. > >Regards >SWK It would be interesting if someone pushed the point here about a professional gliding instructor who also happened to be a tug pilot with a PPL. Can he REALLY legally tow in the professional operation? It has been done lots of times of course. CASA actually has rules about cost sharing which would seem to be broken in this case. The FAA makes the hidden assumption that glider towing is a commercial operation which leads to things like Experimental homebuilts not being allowed to tow gliders but on closer examination they mean tow gliders commercially. Experimental homebuilts can be used to tow gliders legally in the US. I got that from one who should know - Dick Van Grundsven who has tested the RV's in this use. In practice the FAA regulates gliding with a very light hand. It just doesn't figure on their priorities. Most of the modern imported gliders seem to be flying on Experimental - Air racing/Exhibition certificates as they would be long out of date by the time the rubber stamping of the German type certificate made it to the top of the pile. Interestingly the FAA just doesn't seem to be the object of much hate or derision amongst US soaring pilots unlike CASA/GFA here. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring