I've been a pilot for 38 years and 23,500 hours later I WOULD like to know
the difference between a map and a chart???  So what is it please?
Ron S 

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Anyone who can tie a shoelace in 15 seconds can do a splice in a minute,
with just a little practice, no splicing tool needed.

...and a sextant is a great way to estimate altitude of a glider from the
ground; pilots who don't know the difference between a map and a chart
should be keel-hauled; and a cat-o-nine tails keeps the winch retrieve
driver on the ball. But plumb bobs are useless when it comes to working out
your angle of bank.

[working hard on becoming a cantankerous old fart]

 
Cheers
Brett Kettle 
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Sent: Friday, 10 March 2006 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re[2]: [Aus-soaring] Re: [pulleylaunch] Knots?

If
-it takes 30 seconds to tie a knot
-10 minutes to do a splice
-you need to carry a splicing tool
-you need someone who is trained and wants to do it

Why would you bother to splice...unless you used a winch and were
therefore forced to do it !

KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:38:44 +1300
"Brett Kettle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why not splice it?
> 
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> Derry
> Sent: Friday, 10 March 2006 5:38 AM
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> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Re: [pulleylaunch] Knots?
> 
> To: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pulleylaunch/
> cc others
> Neil                  
> 
> I should have expanded a little more about knots.
> 
> A FEATURE THAT OUR COUSINS USING WINCHES CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
> 
> The knots which we used that worked were reef knots.
> 
> If you look at a reef knot, the knot sticks out one side and the two
> lengths of rope line up under pressure. So when you watch a rope with a
> reef knot in it go around a pulley at speed and under load the line of
> the rope goes right against the pulley and the reef knot sticks out to
> the side.
> 
> After watching knots go around pulleys many times under load I was
> amazed to see that the line of the rope always went against the pulley
> and the knot was on the opposite side.
> 
> Reef knots slip easily so we tied a knot at the end of each peice of
> rope to stop it slipping. This worked a treat.
> 
> A knot savy pilot saw a reef knot we had tied before a launch and
> replaced it with some other superior knot in terms of strength.
> Unfortunately when the knot went through the pulley it snapped. The
> reason it snapped was that the two lengths of rope did not line up when
> under pressure and the knot did not stick out to the side. The knot was
> on the inside of one of the pieces of rope and acted as a fulcrum
> placing much stress on the rope at the edge of the knot.
> 
> Has anyone eany other thoughts about knots.....it is a big subject ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael Derry
> 
> "Neil Wolthers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pulleylaunch/
> 
> > Is there any particular reason you guys are using knots in the rope?
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