Geoff,

the word 'staring' was an overstatement. I agree with your point.

Nick.

On 1/12/07, Geoff Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Nick

With the greatest respect, I cannot accept that anyone is really "staring
at their flarm in a thermal", or is so stupid as to be doing so.

The device has always been promoted as an AID to see-&-avoid lookout, it
does have an audio function and it is worth remembering that See-and-Avoid
is not infallible, particularly when we have the extent of blind spots that
we do and we choose to sometimes/often fly in close proximity.

One mid-air when one machine is Flarm equipped does not, in my view,
warrant a great deal of soul searching about Flarm. Effort would perhaps be
better spent to look at the practices being used by both of the aircraft in
this particular case and surely that is being done by someone. It may even
be possible that they each knew that the other was thereabouts.

Regards Geoff




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*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Controversial maybe? FLARM


 Opinion noted, but what about the rest of it Scott? Who is staring at
their flarm in a thermal? Did this midair take place in a thermal or in the
criuse?

Nick.


On 1/12/07, Scott Penrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On 12/01/2007, at 1:28 PM, Nick Gilbert wrote:
>
>  Flarms are in avoiding midairs, surely some people have started
> thinking that they are less likely to have a midair, therefore are relying
> too much on their Flarm for collision avoidance, and are not looking out as
> much as they should be.
>
>
>
>
> This is an old argument. And no offence, a load of bollocks. Do you know
> that was the same argument given against wearing seat belts ! People will
> drive more dangerously now that they think they are safer.
>
>  Would they have been less likely to have a midair if neither had a
> Flarm?
>
>
> Yes. Absolutely. Easily mathematically provable. No doubt !
>
>
> Scott
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