Many, many, years ago is about right for me too! In the late 50s Sydney Uni provided night lectures in economics (was working full time) so uni life amounted to dinner in the Men's Union and waving to the driver leaving the parking space you coveted. The only way to utilise the other facilities was to give up sleeping! Paying the fees was difficult indeed. Cheers Michael
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashford, John Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2007 3:22 PM To: Tom Wilksch; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences Many Many years ago when I went I resented the compulsory fees and saw no advantage. It appeared to benefit the party people and didn't add anything to my limited academic experience. Of course at this time I was working full time and really didn't have time for the other things. regards John Ashford Maintenance Supervisor, Dullingari / Cross Border Santos Ltd PO Box 1010 Bne 4001 Ph 08 8678 4751 Fax 08 8678 4740 Mob 0409 679 867 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wilksch Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2007 13:49 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences Well as I said, unless you are a current student at Uni, its a bit hard for you to gauge the affect. Yes the services are avaliable in the 'real world' and unsurprisingly they have filled the gap for the most part. In doing so they have killed the campus life. You do _not_ go to Uni for just a degree! You go for the friends, the atmosphere and the environment. I wouldn't normally make a point of this, but I do get very sick of people making these judgements when they simply havent experienced the results. Any other students on the list care to comment? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Wilksch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences > At 01:30 PM 7/06/2007, you wrote: > >> > Obviously the GFA position was based on sheer greed and protecting >> > the revenue, bit like trade unions, student unions etc which we've >> > thankfully stopped. >> > >> > Mike >> >>Thankfully stopped? I think maybe you should try being a student at Uni >>since VSU has come in before you make comments like that. >> >>Tom > > Yes, thankfully stopped. I meant what I said. If a student union can't > convince people to join without coercion it has no business being. > You go to uni to do a course, get a degree. Having the uni administration > refuse to give you the degree you've earned because you won't join the > union is thuggery of the first order. > The so called "services" provided by student unions are available in the > real world and that includes sporting and special interest clubs. Might > even get students more firmly grounded in the real world. > > Mike > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > Int'l + 61 429 355784 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: > 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: 06/06/2007 14:03 > > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Please consider the environment before printing. ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Santos Ltd A.B.N. 80 007 550 923 Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please immediately advise us by return email and delete the email without making a copy. _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring