Tom

For what it's worth, I agree with Mike.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Wilksch 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences


  Well as I said, unless you are a current student at Uni, its a bit hard for 
  you to gauge the affect.  Yes the services are avaliable in the 'real world' 
  and unsurprisingly they have filled the gap for the most part.  In doing so 
  they have killed the campus life.  You do _not_ go to Uni for just a degree! 
  You go for the friends, the atmosphere and the environment.

  I wouldn't normally make a point of this, but I do get very sick of people 
  making these judgements when they simply havent experienced the results. 
  Any other students on the list care to comment?

  Tom

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "Tom Wilksch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion of issues 
  relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences


  > At 01:30 PM 7/06/2007, you wrote:
  >
  >> > Obviously the GFA position was based on sheer greed and protecting
  >> > the revenue, bit like trade unions, student unions etc which we've
  >> > thankfully stopped.
  >> >
  >> > Mike
  >>
  >>Thankfully stopped?  I think maybe you should try being a student at Uni
  >>since VSU has come in before you make comments like that.
  >>
  >>Tom
  >
  > Yes, thankfully stopped. I meant what I said. If a student union can't 
  > convince people to join without coercion it has no business being.
  > You go to uni to do a course, get a degree. Having the uni administration 
  > refuse to give you the degree you've earned because you won't join the 
  > union is thuggery of the first order.
  > The so called "services" provided by student unions are available in the 
  > real world and that includes sporting and special interest clubs. Might 
  > even get students more firmly grounded in the real world.
  >
  > Mike
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