Let's suppose you do your gold height during your 300km diamond goal flight. The claim for the height gain is not restricted to the time between the start and finish of the goal flight. They are two separate claims. The 'soaring performance' with regard to the height claim begins with the release from tow. The 'soaring performance' with regard to the diamond goal claim is from the start point to the finish point. Pam
-----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 10:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Altitude badge claims ..... At 06:20 PM 28/11/2009, you wrote: >The latest sporting code has been updated to agree with the de facto >standard-setters, SeeYou and OLC. > >"Chapter 4 Verification Requirements and Methods >4.5.6 GPS recording procedures >c. DURING FLIGHT As soon as possible after release, the pilot should make a >steep turn so that the GPS data clearly indicate the release point and >altitude." > >If you look in the definitions section as well, it says that the release >point is the point on the ground but it also says that start time and >altitude may be taken at the release point. > > - Morgan What an amazing bunch of self contradictory stuff the Sporting Code is. The first and second sentences of 4.4.1 seem to contradict each other. 4.5.3 says altitudes are taken from pressure data except for the odd case of flight continuity. Release point is defined as a point on the ground but start time and altitude may be taken there? The altitude there is zero feet AGL according to the definition. "Soaring Performance" is from the START point to the FINISH Point. Gain of height is difference between high point and previous lowest point DURING a soaring performance. Does "during" actually include the start and finish points? If not then you cannot use the release point for an altitude claim and need a subsequent lowest point. Note that the rules for mechanical and electronic barographs all require a notch on the P.A. trace or record and any evidence must be such that it is of the standard as if it was the ONLY evidence. Beats me. There's also a bit about if there's any doubt it be interpreted to the "maximum disadvantage" of the pilot. I would take this as disallowance. Even if not, the "low point" is going to be higher than it otherwise might be or you think it should be. Exacly where during this turn after release did the release take place? No problem if there's a good margin on your gold height claim but to do that at most places in Australia where gliders are flown would require a climb to in excess of 13000 feet if you do a normal 2000 foot launch and continue to climb in a thermal without a low point. In the end it will be YOUR failed claim. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments for over 30 years ABN: 75532924542 phone 0746 355784 fax 0746 358796 cellphones 0428 355784 0429 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com P.O.Box 7474 Toowoomba M.C. 4352 Queensland Australia _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring