Mike I certainly hope they do not restrict the GFA AEF system. It is expensive 
enough now. 

You would be more familiar than I am as to the number of incidents GFA has had 
under the above system

Rob Moore


On 09/11/2011, at 10:06 AM, Mike Cleaver <wom...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:

> When it was first mooted ten years or so ago, the NZ Part 115 rule 
> potentially would have allowed customers to purchase a ride in a net slung 
> under a helicopter, among other weird ideas. They have toned it down a lot 
> and basically applied it to selling a sport aviation experience to people off 
> the street who are not capable of giving the "informed consent" that is an 
> inherent part in participating in an aviation sport.
> 
> Australia has had CAO 95.4.1 for glider charter flights for over 15 years, 
> though nowadays most clubs use the air experience provisions to introduce 
> people to gliding.
> 
> And it is over 25 years since Australia followed the UK and a lot of European 
> countries with normalised rules for passenger rides in hot air balloons, with 
> proper rules for commercial pilot licences and certified operators. We would 
> not call these balloon flights "high risk" as they are properly regulated - 
> unlike NZ until now. However, there are still some countries and some balloon 
> operators that do not apply safe operating rules, and they are the ones where 
> accidents have happened and passengers killed by totally avoidable 
> occurrences that have been improperly managed.
> 
> From the latest information available, it seems my former employer has 
> started to move forward with our proposed new rules, which will be coming 
> from a quite different direction from our Pacific neighbours.
> 
> Wombat
> 
> At 10:02 9/11/2011, you wrote:
>> Maybe it is all about Australia NZ rivalry, Australia is first with such 
>> widely based the carbon tax, so NZ ups the ante with being first with this 
>> regulation, and proud of it obviously, given this “We are to my knowledge is 
>> the only regulator in the world to introduce an adventure aviation rule."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> On 9 November 2011 08:38, Mike Borgelt 
>> <<mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com>mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> 
>> wrote:
>> At 06:28 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
>>> At 05:41 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
>>>> <http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page>http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page
>>>>  
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The seminar was held to explain how to complete the reams of paperwork 
>>> needed to comply with CAA rule part 115 – Adventure Aviation – 
>>> Certification and Operations.
>>> 
>>> The CAA anticipates it will issue about 50 certificates, costing about 
>>> $7,600 each, within the first year."
>>> 
>>> Wonderful, not how to operate safely but how to fill in the extensive 
>>> paperwork and be charged for it. If the Mafia did this it would be called a 
>>> protection racket.
>>> Eventually the parasite class will find that the corpse of the productive 
>>> class doesn't have any more blood in it.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>> 
>> What's really funny though is that this is the country that invented 
>> commercial bungee jumping!
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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