Lfp weight 10ah 1.15kg vs sla 9ah 3.2kg

Michael

On 25/02/2013, at 9:12 PM, Matthew Gage <m...@knightschallenge.com> wrote:

> However, there isn't much point at the moment
> 
> The weight saving is small for the same capacity, but the cost difference is 
> huge.
> 
> As an example, a 10Ah LiFePO4 battery in the "standard" size most of use 
> weighs 1.92kg. An equivalent 9Ah SLA weighs 2.55kg 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/02/2013, at 21:33 , Matthew Scutter <yellowplant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What's (hopefully) getting popular in gliders now is lithium *iron*
>> (LiFePO4) rather than lithium-ion.
>> That one little r is the difference between a fireball and a sizzle
>> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery#Safety]
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 25/02/2013, at 8:33 PM, Craig Vinall <craig.vin...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thought this may be of interest. I know that these batteries are becoming
>>> popular in gliders; what do others think? Is there a potential fire risk?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Probably the wrong question to ask, given that you could just as easily
>>> inquire into whether
>>> there's a potential fire risk inherent in carrying around tanks of volatile
>>> hydrocarbons.
>>> 
>>> More useful questions would be, "Under what conditions can a fire start,"
>>> and, "Once it
>>> has started, what can you do about it?"
>>> 
>>> By my money, the worst parts about the event in NY weren't associated with
>>> the fact that
>>> the batteries caught fire; the worst bits were the fact that Boeing had
>>> assured the FAA
>>> that thermal runaway was impossible (it clearly wasn't) and the fact that it
>>> took fire crews,
>>> with all their training and specialized equipment, more than 40 minutes to
>>> extinguish it.
>>> 
>>> Could have been worse -- could have been over the Pacific somewhere at the
>>> limits of
>>> ETOPS.
>>> 
>>> ANA has grounded their 787s until at least May, so there'll be a lot of time
>>> to ponder those
>>> issues before they start flying again.
>>> 
>>>  - mark
>>> 
>>> 
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