Hi Mike, I originally flew from Cunderdin in the 80's so you can blame Orton, Painter, Cooper, Saunders and Repton for my early training. I now fly and instruct from Kingaroy and you can now blame Schmidt, Kolb, Sommerfeldt and the other recalcitrants for my current predicament. I still can't fly out of sight on a dark night, in fact I outlanded in the first paddock north of town last Sunday. I have shares in ZAF "Phoebus C. Although I am about to give up on it having tried every comfort trick in the book and have failed dismally. So if anyone wants to take my share for the princely sum of nearly zero email me. I am in need of a new aeroplane, nimbus, hornet, mossie ventus etc. I am really after something that needs a refinish as a project so if you know of anything let me know.
Day job is 737 mixed with a role in flight ops ( fuel efficiency ) at Virgin. I guess having been brought up at Cunderdin which has always been a CTAF MBZ MTAF BRZ thingy you kind of got used to machi,s pc9, barons and other IFR training aircraft, Kingaroy is the same but now but throw in RFDS, rescue helis, ultralights and more gliders and it all seems to work. Although I am young in Aviation terms at 46 years old and with few hours I can honestly say a couple of things. 1- Glider pilots make better airline pilots PERIOD. No ifs, no buts it's just a fact, they have a better feel, manage energy better and generally shine in aeroplane manipulation both manually and systems wise. 2- I have NEVER met a Airline pilot whom looked down on their fellow airline pilots because they went soaring. And to be honest if I did meet one I sure as hell wouldn't put my kids on a airliner with them. 3- On the other hand just because you are a glider pilot it doesn't mean you have better flying skills than an airline pilot, despite what a few might think it's not all autopilot and piss drinking. On my fuel team I have a ex F18 instructor, if you think thermalling is hard just wait until you have done it with someone trying to shoot you down, this bloke is still an FO's waiting his time until a command becomes available. Funnily enough he started flying gliders out of Western Sydney. Conversely many of VA pilots joined from GA or Regional airlines and many would agree with you as to radio use and other standards. Unfortunately that level of aviation has always been a stepping stone so the continuity of training is never there. That is why we are so lucky in soaring. If you added up the experience of my instructors from WA and Qld alone it must add up to over 300 years of experience. It sometimes frustrates me when we don't realise just how good we are and why we don't promote it in a professional manner to other airspace users. Having said that I threw a mate of mine from Kingaroy (level 2 and comp pilot) in the 737 simulator last month. He has never flown anything bigger than a motorfalk yet after 30 minutes he flew away from a V1 cut, flew a perfect single engine visual circuit and landed on speed, on slope and even remembered to use the one remaining thrust reverser. I have no doubt he would have made a top notch airline pilot had he wanted to. I guess after all this babble all I am trying to say is that as soon as I hear the old " real pilots lookout and hate engines crap I turn away and hope I don't meet them in a thermal or on final glide ( not much chance of that since I am always lower than every one else) because they are the ones who turn off Flarm, set 122.9, fly over weight with no insurance and only just pass their checks because they are better than the GFA and their silly " control access " checks. We now live in an age of Oudies, Flarm, tcas, SMS systems and IT based training aids, whilst it might not be like the good old days it's what we have got to work with, and your poor suffering CFI might like a hand to keep on top of it :) Righto off soapbox now until the spin argument arises. Better go find a discus or hornet in need of paint Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad > On 13 Nov 2013, at 1:46 pm, Mike Cleaver <wom...@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > D -So you obviously misidentified the operator Justin works for as one of > those small or Regional airlines - aircraft from ATR72 up to 777 are not the > problem (though I agree with you about some SAAB and Metro drivers)! Problem > there is that most of their aircraft spend very little time in the Class G > and lower Class E airspace where glider pilots fly. Hence we do not often > hear the very professional operators unless we listen on some of the shared > Class A/C/E/G ATC frequencies which MOST glider pilots avoid. > > I notice that some of the professionals are now using "QLink" or "Velocity" > callsigns rather than the ones they used last year - things change in the > aviation industry. Hopefully we can train our glider pilots to become like > the REAL professionals - clear and concise messages spoken at a measured > pace, using the most effective mix of ICAO phraseology and plain language, > and avoiding the repetitive but useless broadcasts that some in the GA and > recreational training game had adopted as a result of ill-thought-out rule > changes in the past 10 years. There is a lot of bad radio procedure in CTAF > transmissions from all kinds of operators, though they can and should be a > little less formal than on busy ATC frequencies. > > Justin - where and what do you fly (gliders and others)? Please continue to > be an ambassador for good airmanship! > > Wombat > > > On 13/11/2013 12:01 PM, DMcD wrote: >>>>> So perhaps talking on the radio in a professional manner… >>>>> >> Wrong forum! You want to be posting that on the forum which Rex and >> most other GA pilots read. >> >> Talking as rapidly as possible when transmitting aviation related >> stuff and at a normal speed and tone of voice when just chatting >> appears to be the accepted "professional" standard. Oh… and don't >> forget to clip the first and last words of the transmission… the >> location. That's the important bit to get everyone on their lookout. >> >> In my limited experience, the big airlines and the clubs are generally >> good at radio communication while the GA lot and some regional >> airlines prefer transmission to communication. >> >> D >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring