Geez Noel, you lived/are living in interesting times! Did some ol' Chinese magician put a curse on you, by any chance? I assume that your planned wave route to NZ is via Tasmania? If so I estimate that the journey is just a tad under 2500 k. How much fuel did you say the Stemme holds? I have an alternative suggestion: After the boys have finished with the Perlan II glider, (it will obviously be superseded in a very short time frame by the Perlan III, IV & V etc as Airbus is now paying the bills), just borrow this museum piece from them, make a few mods (like fitting it with a big jet, financed by Airbus of course: hey they might just have one lying around), and then climb into the core of the jetstream, just above Stawell, and simply blow across to NZ - much easier! Loved the bit in your story about the senior FA. Whilst mere pilots just fly aeroplanes, Hosties are much closer to God, and do important things like giving out the barley sugar, and cleaning up the vomit resulting from the pilots incompetence.
Cheers, Gary -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Noel Roediger Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2015 10:15 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: 'Beverley Roediger' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 140, Issue 7 On August 2nd 1978 a Maule VH-MSM flown by Beverley with Doug Vanstan and Gordon Wilson as pax. towed me in John Bignall's New LS3 on its delivery flight to Bothwell, TAS. We climbed to 10,000 ft. and tracked so the Maule could reach land via abeam King Island to Wynyard where we refuelled. I'd developed a migraine and Bev called a cab to go into town to get me a packet of Panadol and something to eat. It took a couple of hours before my migraine ceased and then off we went to Bothwell. A temporary VHF comm. had been established using my portable Edo-aire. Unfortunately it, and its battery had to be housed and the only thing available to me was its hand held mic. That worked well while crossing Bass Straight but out of Wynyard we went out of comms. while Bev went onto Launceston control for airways clearance. We had to track via the Great Lake and on reaching it a comfortable cruise speed I noticed my IAS begin to decrease. When it came back to 60kts. the Maule began descending at around 500fpm. towards the lakes surface. We were only about 2000ft. above the lake when the descent began and it didn't decrease but turbulence became fierce. Bev, who had a comprehensive knowledge of wave flying, turned down wind to get out of the sink, but for what seemed an eternity, we continued to descend. As we neared the eastern shore the lakes surface had frozen and by the time we descended below 500ft. above it I'd decided to release when I thought I could glide close to the shore and land on the ice in the hope that relieved of the LS3 the Maule would be able to climb and clear the terrain to the east. I actually had my hand on the yellow T to release when our descent stopped and immediately we began to climb in smooth air. >From there on the flight was uneventful and I released over Bothwell and waited for the Maule to land. Floating around and admiring the scenery I noticed smoke from a couple of chimneys drifting towards the others source - flew over the top of it and climbed with vario pegged at over 10kts. to the base of CTA and then pulled full D/B and descended to land at Bothwell. A couple of notes: I. Bev later advised she had the Maule at max power during our descent which would normally result in a climb around 1,000fpm. 2. Doug came along to inspect a Kookaburra at Bothwell with the intent to purchase it. He did and it now resides at Benalla as the only mid-wing ES52. MORE: A number of sailplane pilots flew for Ansett & TAA in various types: F27, DC9, B737, B727 & B767 and I'm sure all will agree that the leg Launceston - Hobart could be the most turbulent air in Australia. Mainly due to the fact that route flew through the rotor of the Tas. Wave system when it was working. On one trip in a B737 the system was at full strength. I flew the leg at lowest safe speed and had the aircraft move as it wanted in the turbulence. After landing at Hobart the senior F.A. barged into the cockpit and advised it was the roughest flight she had ever been on and she would never fly with me again. A quick check of the pax. manifest for the flight revealed their numbers did not warrant a full crew of F.A.'s so I was able to comply with her desire and left her in Hobart to find her own way back to Melbourne. MORE: In the late 70's - early 80's a bloke called Mac ???? purchased a Pik 20E and operated from his own strip somewhere to the south of Hobart in the lee of Mt. Wellington. I've never caught up with his wave flying escapades but think Rob Dorning may know. A CHALLENGING THOUGHT: In the past years I did a lot of wave flying in the Grampians system -best height above FL270 - and on one occasion managed to transition from the Grampians to the SSE into the Ottway wave and climbed to a FL that would have easily allowed crossing Bass Straight into the TAS. wave. No pre-planning resulted in returning to Stawell. On occasion, a wave system develops which, from Satellite images, would allow a climb in the Grampians, and via the Ottways easily get to the Tas. system. >From the Hobart area I've often viewed images of a wave system crossing the Tasman to NZ and in those conditions reckon a flight could be made from Stawell (Vic) to Invercargill (NZ). Any takers? OBSERVATIONS. It seems to me most Aus. soaring pilots have poor understanding of various wave types and exhibit little or no desire to use them. There are numerous wave sites in Australia. W.A. has the Stirling Range. S.A. has numerous wave sites that are rarely utilised. In fact I can count on one hand those pilots who've exceeded diamond height in S.A. However the sites begin just to the N/W of Pt. Lincoln, occur regularly in the lee of the Mt. Lofty ranges along its entire length, and the South and North Flinders Ranges. A long time ago I took a series of observations while flying between Adelaide and Leigh Creek en- route to Alice Springs at above FL310. In the lee of the South Flinders I recall noting calculated lift was in excess of 500 fpm. Living at Arkaroola in the mid 60's Lenticulars were always visible to the east whenever a pre-post frontal situation. On the few times I had reason to drive to the east when these met. conditions prevailed lines of rolling dust, parallel to the eastern range escarpment and between it and Lake Frome were visible. I reckon that wave will rival the one at Bishop U.S.. Victoria's Grampian Range probably provides the safest wave soaring site in Aus. with almost unlimited outlanding ability in the area surrounding it. I often wonder why various groups travel over 1000km. to attend a wave camp when the availability to experience similar soaring often lies close to their own back door. Noel. -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of aus-soaring-requ...@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015 11:33 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 140, Issue 7 Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-soaring-requ...@lists.internode.on.net You can reach the person managing the list at aus-soaring-ow...@lists.internode.on.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Tassie waves (Graham Watts) 2. Re: Tassie waves (Dave Donald) 3. Re: Tassie waves (Graham Watts) 4. Re: Tassie waves (John Welsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 16:34:02 +0800 From: Graham Watts <grah...@arach.net.au> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves To: aus-soaring <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Message-ID: <554c74fa.9020...@arach.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed It looks like it was a good wave day in Tassie (via BOM) http://imgur.com/5wSevJz Graham ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 10:25:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Donald <icans...@y7mail.com> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Message-ID: <141358131.2562399.1431080703813.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Can someone describe what these waves are and how they are propagated? Are they soarable? ?Regards, Dave Donald www.designbuildtest.com.au 0409059929 Do not go gentle into that good night - Dylan Thomas From: Graham Watts <grah...@arach.net.au> To: aus-soaring <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 18:34 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves It looks like it was a good wave day in Tassie (via BOM) http://imgur.com/5wSevJz Graham _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20150 508/06caf2b0/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 19:47:23 +0800 From: Graham Watts <grah...@arach.net.au> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves To: Dave Donald <icans...@y7mail.com>, "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Message-ID: <554ca24b....@arach.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Lee Waves generated from the high country in Tasmania in a strong westerly flow. Soarable?.. don't know as I am a long way from there. Image here is from an Android app called Skew-T. Strong westerly even at 37,000ft.. Maybe someone from Tassie can chime in.. http://i.imgur.com/dckyv7Q.jpg On 8/05/2015 6:25 PM, Dave Donald wrote: > Can someone describe what these waves are and how they are propagated? > Are they soarable? > Regards, > > > Dave Donald > www.designbuildtest.com.au > 0409059929 > > Do not go gentle into that good night - Dylan Thomas > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > *From:* Graham Watts <grah...@arach.net.au> > *To:* aus-soaring <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> > *Sent:* Friday, 8 May 2015, 18:34 > *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves > > It looks like it was a good wave day in Tassie (via BOM) > > http://imgur.com/5wSevJz > > Graham > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > <mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20150 508/37c0d41b/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 22:02:45 +0800 From: "John Welsh" <jwe...@arach.net.au> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>, "'Dave Donald'" <icans...@y7mail.com> Message-ID: <007801d08997$a99adcf0$fcd096d0$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They sure are Dave! I did two years down in Tassie 1989-90, flying with SCOT out of Woodbury. The mountain ranges on the West half of Tassie run North/South and are in the roaring 40's westerly. The wave is very strong but is limited by the main Hobart Launie Melbourne controlled airspace overhead. The Australian height record is waiting for the person that can organise the necessary clearance and sufficient oxygen equipment. I can well remember soaring along the leading edge of a lennie in IS28 with full divebrake open and 80 knots maintaining level at the base of controlled airspace. I can also remember being quite badly frightened flying in a giant rotor in a club libelle and making a vertical approach to the grass pad in front of the hangar with an unforecast surface wind of about 40knots. Regards, John Welsh. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Graham Watts Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015 7:47 PM To: Dave Donald; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves Lee Waves generated from the high country in Tasmania in a strong westerly flow. Soarable?.. don't know as I am a long way from there. Image here is from an Android app called Skew-T. Strong westerly even at 37,000ft.. Maybe someone from Tassie can chime in.. http://i.imgur.com/dckyv7Q.jpg On 8/05/2015 6:25 PM, Dave Donald wrote: Can someone describe what these waves are and how they are propagated? Are they soarable? Regards, Dave Donald www.designbuildtest.com.au 0409059929 Do not go gentle into that good night - Dylan Thomas _____ From: Graham Watts <mailto:grah...@arach.net.au> <grah...@arach.net.au> To: aus-soaring <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 18:34 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tassie waves It looks like it was a good wave day in Tassie (via BOM) http://imgur.com/5wSevJz Graham _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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