that would mean the concept of patch by exception does not require
patch panels and clearly even with that methodology it's used. Seems
like some crack smoking logic there. I bet 90% of most peoples access
layer has the same configuration on their switches.

I don't think scale has anything todo with it. Sounds more about
margin, the cost of RU space and how close to the wind most SP are
flying which, in-turns means paying engineers peanuts and doing
whatever to bring the revenue in.


Regards,

Peter Tiggerdine

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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Because SPs have the luxury to not use structured cabling, due to scale
> where all switch ports share a common configuration, so there's no need for
> a patch panel, just patch direct to the switch, whereas in enterprise,
> inadvertent swapping of ports leads to P1s, hence, structured cabling is
> fairly ubiquitous.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On 4 October 2017 at 14:56, Sam Silvester <sam.silves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There's enterprise racks, and SP racks and I'd say to generalise,
>>> Enterprise do the ports to the front to structured cabling, while SPs will
>>> reverse mount for shorter wire runs and density. Also swapping out reverse
>>> mounted switches is a huge pain.
>>>
>>
>> That's an interesting statement. What makes you say that? I've come across
>> sites where the front to front (cold aisle) spacing of racks is greater than
>> rear to rear (hot aisle), is that what you are getting at?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sam
>>
>
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