There are specialist csp’s that have more diverse connectivity then the big 
guys. 
We for example have transit to each of the gang of 4 plus all the peering 
exchanges.

There are others also with great connectivity in that space. 

Matt


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> On 25 Dec 2017, at 11:51 am, Christopher Hawker 
> <christop...@allitservices.com.au> wrote:
> 
> A workaround I used was to route the traffic to my network in a DC. Reduces 
> the latency by about 200ms and drops the number of hops.
> 
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
> 
> CH.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Joseph Goldman <j...@apcs.com.au>
> Date: 25/12/17 10:08 am (GMT+10:30)
> To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Routing Issue
> 
> Yup I get the same issue - works perfectly from my peered network but on a 
> relatives Foxtel (read: Telstra) connection it goes overseas.
> 
> If only there was enough of this type of traffic to force the big guys onto 
> peering fabrics.
> 
>> On 23/12/17 20:02, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>> It doesn’t look like a problem as such to me, just that AAPT don’t peer 
>> anywhere that has a more specific AU route and the originator are not 
>> advertising to Transit in AU, only Peering fabrics.
>> 
>> Nathan Brookfield
>> Chief Executive Officer
>> 
>> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>> http://www.simtronic.com.au
>> 
>> On 23 Dec 2017, at 19:59, Christopher Hawker <m...@chrishawker.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> It appears as though AAPT has a routing issue. For some reason when pinging 
>> IBM's Quad9, it goes overseas:
>> 
>> 
>> C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9
>> 
>> Tracing route to dns.quad9.net [9.9.9.9]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>> 
>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  172.16.0.6
>>   2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.198]
>>   4     9 ms    14 ms     9 ms  syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au 
>> [203.219.107.197]
>>   5    15 ms    14 ms    15 ms  203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.67]
>>   6   149 ms   180 ms   150 ms  ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net 
>> [180.87.112.221]
>>   7   344 ms   368 ms   368 ms  xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net [64.212.107.9]
>>   8   301 ms   293 ms   272 ms  ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net [67.16.132.174]
>>   9   283 ms   304 ms   303 ms  64.214.66.70
>>  10   293 ms   269 ms   264 ms  dns.quad9.net [9.9.9.9]
>> 
>> Trace complete.
>> 
>> However from an Over the Wire service, it goes to their Sydney server (as 
>> below):
>> 
>> 
>> C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9
>> 
>> Tracing route to dns.quad9.net [9.9.9.9]
>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>> 
>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.3.254
>>   2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
>>   3     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
>>   4     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
>>   5     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au 
>> [nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn]
>>   6     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.254.251.164
>>   7     2 ms     4 ms     2 ms  42.syd.equinix.com [45.127.172.68]
>>   8     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  dns.quad9.net [9.9.9.9]
>> 
>> Trace complete.
>> 
>> Any idea what the possible issue is?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> CH.
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