> On 16 May 2018, at 9:59 am, Bradley Amm <b...@bradleyamm.com> wrote: > > So I guess its unlikely that HE will fix the routing to Telstra, Optus, AAPT > anytime soon.
Shouldn’t that be Optus, Telstra and AAPT won’t fix the routing to HE anytime soon? They can ALL initiate the fix. I believe HE has very open peering policies. > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Nick Stallman <n...@agentpoint.com> > Date: 16/5/18 7:32 am (GMT+08:00) > To: Pieter Berkel <pieter.ber...@gmail.com>, McDonald Richards > <mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> > Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) > > A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US > capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. > > On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote: >> Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that >> spectrum? >> >> >> On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards <mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I >> pay for. >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel <pieter.ber...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts >> providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus being the two main >> ones I've noticed). It would appear from the below post that HE policy is >> to preference transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both >> are the same length?): >> >> https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233763&page_no=2#2006292 >> >> (Although I'm not quite sure how the reverse might break routing, it might >> break their business model?). I guess it's up to Vocus & TPG to figure out >> how fix if it becomes a problem for them. >> >> Edwin: there is some merit to having a routable /48 to experiment with, not >> sure if Internode supply that sort of IPv6 subnet to ADSL customers? >> >> >> >> On 16 May 2018 at 09:05, Dave Browning <d...@sentrian.com.au> wrote: >> All good if on MegaIX SYD >> >> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >> over a maximum of 30 hops: >> >> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au >> [103.226.9.138] >> 2 15 ms 16 ms 14 ms vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au >> [103.226.9.245] >> 3 13 ms 16 ms 14 ms as6939.sydney.megaport.com [103.26.68.236] >> 4 12 ms 19 ms 15 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >> >> Dave Browning | Network Engineer >> P 1300 791 678 >> Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > -- > Nick Stallman > TECHNICAL DIRECTOR > n...@agentpoint.com > 02 8039 6820 > www.agentpoint.com.au > > > Level 3, 100 Harris Street, Pyrmont NSW 2009 > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
