You're now part of the problem, not the solution. ...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4 Brokering On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:15 AM John Edwards <jaedwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Flirting with "a cute guy or girl" at an industry function is > inappropriate. > > There are apps for that now, save the face to face for professional > relationship building. > > Imagine thinking that someone was interested in you for your skills or > experience, only to find that you misread "innocent flirting". That might > affect your career choices and the industry as a whole would be poorer for > it. At the very least it wasted your time in exploring legitimate > networking opportunities. > > Bonus "PC gone mad" points for sharing a mildly racist anecdote and > obliviously lowering the tone of the place a little bit more. > > John > > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 08:02, Skeeve Stevens < > skeeve+aus...@eintellegonetworks.com> wrote: > >> I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this >> not being the forum for such discussions. >> >> This post is not to start another thread war, so if you want to abuse or >> say something else to me, please do it off-list. >> >> I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. >> I didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if >> this perspective was addressed. >> >> Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. >> SEXUAL HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) >> is not wrong. >> >> I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly >> good situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, >> the incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are >> accurate, as a misunderstanding or wrong accusation can easily destroy >> someone as badly as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to >> make the announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur >> next time. >> >> But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and >> opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events >> where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old) >> due to incidents such as these. >> >> I say this because I have a different experience than most people here in >> that I met my wife at an Ausnog event. >> >> It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... >> there was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri >> Lankan) which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of >> fun with that and there was much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty >> (based on the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that >> event due to way too much alcohol. >> >> It turns out Shanti was the one managing the event on loan from Vocus. As >> a sponsor of Ausnog #2, I had some interactions with Shanti the following >> few days (my staff were previously doing it - but I was smitten), and >> during the actual conference spent most of the time outside doing more >> flirting with this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me >> the time of day. >> >> I don't recall any of that event really except Vijay Gill being awesome >> and Geoff Huston doing his thing. Apart from that... no idea.. I was a >> little smitten. >> >> A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) >> on James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), >> James brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first >> APNIC, and James asked Shanti to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] >> as we were obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that. >> >> 10 years later, and recently having our 7th Wedding anniversary, and >> being the happiest husband ever that I met and fell for one of the very few >> women at the AusNOG conference. >> >> So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that >> is not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, >> is not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should >> continue to continue to have fun at these events and not be scared of >> meeting new people, for whatever reasons. >> >> ...Skeeve >> >> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty >> Ltd >> ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com >> >> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve >> >> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> >> linkedin.com/in/skeeve >> Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4 >> Brokering >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> >
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