I agree, both Telstra and Optus peering agreements are specifically written in a way that anyone other than a national competitor of equivalent size would be excluded from eligibility and as John said earlier even large content providers (e.g. a Netflix, Google or an Amazon) with presence in a few major centres would not qualify per the requirements laid out in that agreement with private discussions between those entities notwithstanding.
Kind Regards, Jim. From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2018 10:17 AM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra and Vocus Peering This appears to be orchestrated to allow Vocus in to the gang so the ACCC will settle down. It seems to be they would be the people likely to Qualify and not really anyone else. Matt On 24/10/18 9:35 am, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: I think it'd be brave to say that. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:55 AM Cameron Murray <cameron.mur...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.mur...@gmail.com> > wrote: some of us. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:24 AM Matthew Moyle-Croft <m...@mmc.com.au <mailto:m...@mmc.com.au> > wrote: Looking at 3.6: 3.6 The peering partner's nationally deployed resilient Internet backbone network should operate on circuits of at least 50% of Telstra’s Internet backbone network from Perth to Brisbane that is dedicated to public Internet traffic. I'd ask who qualifies at all? MMC On 24 Oct 2018, at 7:05 am, John Edwards <jaedwa...@gmail.com <mailto:jaedwa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Links to peering docs from the ACCC web site: https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/products/data_ip/Telstra%20Wholesale%20Internet1/Telstra%20Peering%20Guidelines.pdf https://www.tpg.com.au/peering-guidelines https://www.optus.com.au/content/dam/optus/documents/wholesale/fixed/Optus%20IP%20Interconnect%20Policy%20-%20Summary_2018.pdf http://www.verizonenterprise.com/terms/peering/ These things do have a tendency to disappear from web sites over time so if you aspire to one day peer with the big guys I recommend that you save a copy of each of these The Telstra and TPG documents mention "Sender Keep All", which implies that the IP itself is "free" The Telstra standard for peering is exclusive - requiring interconnection in Darwin AND Hobart, which probably rules out most of the International content providers that setup in Sydney John On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 00:56, Bradley Amm <b...@bradleyamm.com <mailto:b...@bradleyamm.com> > wrote: <https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364> https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364 <https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/> https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/ Doesn't say if its paid or settlement free Get <https://aka.ms/ghei36> Outlook for Android _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. Office 1300 133 299 m...@spectrum.com.au <mailto:m...@spectrum.com.au> Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO */
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