“why not make it a logical map” :-) This is planned, also Text only mode with no graphics is too.
Mehmet On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM Ross Marston <r...@ramtech.net.au> wrote: > Thanks for the explanation and your point of View Mahmet. > Unfortunately it has only served to cement my previous concerns. Please > put My vote as “Thanks for the offer, but… No Thanks”. From what you’ve > written below, I remain unconvinced that you have considered the issues > adequately. If you really want this to happen in a functional manner, why > not make it a logical map. Not Physical. > I do however appreciate the explanation, and I for one hope you find a way > to use your entrepreneurial powers for good in the future. > > Best wishes. > Ross Marston > > > From: Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> > Date: Monday, 3 December 2018 at 7:21 am > To: Ross Marston <r...@ramtech.net.au> > Cc: "<ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help) > > hi Ross, > > thank you for your message. > > As we have explained in our website , http://www.networkatlas.org > -- Network Atlas is a crowd-sourced near real-time map of the global > Internet infrastructure detailing the world's submarine and terrestrial > networks in real time. I am not claiming we are network planning tool. We > are visualization of what network links are operating, and what not. If a > network link is down, what could be potential backup links people can find > capacity, in addition to that visualizing datacenters, cities where network > density (both from subsea and terrestrial stand point) will enable > enterprises to acquire capacity rapidly. > > Network Atlas is only the platform which enables people who has capacity > to visualize it in a way that it can be easily consumed by Enterprise, > Government, and various other agencies. Operational Status, Network Density > Points, and Diverse possibilities are what we are here to "HIGH LEVEL" > display, and let people make decisions based on that. Network Fiber owners > will be able add networks to the map, update listings with more accurate > information and use the atlas' near real-time data to track outages and > identify possible areas of expansion. How are we going to make this data > "Near realtime?" similar to how Google Maps and Waze works. We provide > platform and mechanisms for people to report operational status. At the end > it's all up to to community to help support the initiative, we are going to > have people in various parts of the world, who will be editors with access > to change status of cables, or approve status change requests reporting an > operational issue. > > One of the functions we are working on providing direct connection to the > people who can buy a capacity on a given route. We do not take commission > for this, we are not middle man (obviously we are the platform but once the > connection is established, people can continue to talk directly and we want > that, we want companies who do not know how to engage directly with sales > team to find this map useful. In most of places, teams are too small to > have dedicated procurement teams, engineers doing this work and getting > frustrated. We are trying , I am not saying we will be successful here, to > make it easy for them to request a quote., once you will go to website and > say, I want capacity on this link, it will connect you to sales people who > will respond you directly.In future releases we are planning humbly to > "Design my route" function which basically you select pop A and pop B, and > it will make a design recommendation based on information we have and will > give you an option to request a quote. > > The members of this list are probably do not need to use this map for > these type of things, but i can assure you , last 6 months i have spent so > much time with Enterprises around the world, helping them transform their > networks, and they are super interested and excited for a tool which can > provide a service which otherwise was a blackbox in the past. > > We are intentionally in the state we are with some ambiguity because we > are working with the community on how to develop our product and make it > most useful to most amount of people. Perhaps it is a waste of time and > money for me to work on this from many point of view, but i believe the > product which I envision in 1 year (which I am still crafting every day > with new ideas) is going to be useful to many (again , not saying to > experts in here but those who are trying to become one, as a stepping > stone, this too might be useful...) > > thank you for the opportunity to expand and explain more, perhaps I should > create a FAQ in the website and put these answer, and more. > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:41 PM Ross Marston <mailto:r...@ramtech.net.au> > wrote: > Hi Mehmet, > I must admit I am at somewhat of a loss to see the benefit of this product > to anyone other than those who are either, bored and have nothing better to > do than look at network maps, or those with an interest in harming those > networks. I'd be fascinated to hear your view on what it's imagined > benefit is. Any user of a supplier's physical network can get information > from the supplier if needed. No one else needs to know it IMO. > > In my experience so far in life, collating private, sensitive information > and publishing it publicly, and easily searchable, is nearly always a > recipe for future disaster. In my work in InfoSec, I can assure you, I > don't see any upsides to this sort of info being freely and easily in the > public domain. I must admit to also wondering if the developers of this > product, have considered it's potential negative impact? > Just my 2c worth... > > Kind regards > Ross Marston > > -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
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