I'd argue that whenever gov.co sticks its fingers into tech on any level the outcome is never as expected...
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Nick Stallman <n...@agentpoint.com> wrote: > The other part is that all the politicians keep whining about the > dominance of Facebook and Google. > Then they pass a law which effectively cements their dominance in place. > > Facebook and Google are at a size where they can actually put some > serious money and effort in to these kinds of video analysis. > Sure it still sucks, but they can at least attempt to do it. > > If I had a novel idea involving live streaming, I make a start up and it > becomes popular. > But a small start up in Australia has no hope of approaching the types > of analysis that Facebook and Google can do. > > The politicians just use the same arguments they use with cryptography. > "We pass the laws, you guys are smart and have algorithms. We are sure > you can figure out how to comply." > > What the government should be doing is producing the video analysis > algorithms themselves. > Then the law can state that online companies must use their model to be > compliant with the law. > The responsibility then falls on to the government, startups are on > equal footing as the dominant companies and complying is relatively easy. > > But that solution is hard (arguably unsolvable at the moment) and when > the model inevitably fails the government wouldn't be able to make a > bogeyman out of the big tech companies. > > On 9/4/19 9:33 pm, a...@coastalaudio.com.au wrote: > > Let's see this wonderful "fingerprint" Paul... > > > > Video fingerprinting is used for copyright purposes and is of no use in > > detecting "suspect" videos. > > The AI algorithm required to do this would require a lot of processing > > power. > > Just how is a provider supposed to finance the development of said > > algorithm...? > > And then apply it in real time across an entire network? > > The computational power required would be enormous, thus YouTube's abject > > failure in this area. > > > > Open NSFW is an open source neural network that struggles with static > > images... > > How is a provider supposed to monitor video in real time? > > > > An interesting Open NSFW talk here - > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Bmt7tksvM > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Peter Fern > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2019 2:30 PM > > To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions > > > > On 9/4/19 2:22 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote: > >> 2 - Ensure you have in place a mechanism to match electronic > >> fingerprints of material similar to anything identified in a eSafety > >> Commissioner's notice. > >> > >> By the by, without a mechanism for the eSafety Commissioner to match > >> content (a common mechanism for electronic fingerprinting material > >> across hosting providers), the eSafety Commissioner will find > >> themselves playing whack a mole chasing content specific to each > >> hosting provider. > > What do you think that looks like, exactly? You've brought up this > magical > > fingerprint technology multiple times, and been rebuffed multiple times, > > with no response. I think it's irresponsible to suggest that this is an > easy > > solve. > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- > Nick Stallman > Technical Director > Email n...@agentpoint.com <mailto:n...@agentpoint.com> > Phone 02 8039 6820 <tel:0280396820> > Website www.agentpoint.com.au <https://www.agentpoint.com.au/> > > > Agentpoint <https://www.agentpoint.com.au/> > Netpoint <https://netpoint.group/> > > Level 3, 100 Harris Street, Pyrmont NSW 2009 Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/agentpoint/> Twitter > <https://twitter.com/agentpoint> Instagram > <https://www.instagram.com/Agentpoint/> Linkedin > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/agentpoint-pty-ltd> > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- Regards, Bruce
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