Excuse my apparent naivety, but I thought data centres were attached to 
networks? It’s apparent that only DevOps engineers are allowed to think 
scientifically, unlike the rest of us mere mortals. I’m sure that I’m not the 
only one that found Paul’s theorising quite interesting…or has the inherent 
Luddite atmosphere of stifling creative thought in this country now permeated 
into the Technosphere…?







From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of James Hodgkinson
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 6:36 PM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period



Please stop thinking out loud, this is the quiet carriage.



James



On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, at 17:17, Paul Wilkins wrote:

Another thought, which is that horizontal mounting is optimal for polar 
regions, whereas you minimise precession at equitorial latitudes with vertical 
mounting (but only if the axis is north aligned), which could go some way to 
explaining the anecdotal stuff you hear about horizontal versus vertical 
mounting. Though I've yet to hear anyone asking what's your latitude before 
they proceed to build a data centre or installing your vertical disks arrays to 
be north axis aligned.



Kind regards



Paul Wilkins



On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:31, Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:markzzzsm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How is this related to network operation? AusNOG - Australian Network Operators 
Group.



You wouldn't go to a car show to ask about motorbikes - you'd to to a motorbike 
show, because that's where the most people interested in and having the most 
knowledge about motorbikes would be.



On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 15:30, Roy Adams <r...@racs.com.au 
<mailto:r...@racs.com.au> > wrote:

Paul, I would be most interested if you hear back from them.



I am curious if even BackBlaze have considered your idea in the past.. maybe a 
wake up for them and others



FYI, they produce these reports each quarter - worth calendaring to pick up.

I was stunned at the 14TB Toshiba reliability... interestingly, 2 weeks ago 
that top line read 0 failures... today it says 1 - v.strange





Kindly,



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Please never upgrade to the latest Windows 10 - You don’t need the hassle, and 
I don’t need the work.

More seriously, the 6 month older Windows 10 releases are typically FAR MORE 
stable - a simple RACS script can fix this - just ask :)
If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until 
you hire an amateur - Red Adair.

Life is a journey through a series of adventures.. Live them, love them, hate 
them, but never give up on your dreams, desires, and goals.

Have you been good today? .ಠ_ಠ





On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 11:22, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com 
<mailto:paulwilkins...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Roy,

Those are the most comprehensive disk stats I've ever seen.



So out of curiosity, I emailed Backblaze to ask if they'd noticed any 
latitudinal effect on disk wear. Not realistically expecting a response, but if 
they did notice a correlation, it may perhaps emerge by osmosis.



Karl, I have to think turning a 15K RPM on it's head over a, admittedly long 
period, has to have an effect. Cumulatively you're going to get uneven wear on 
the bearings. Also the wear is going to be strongly non linear. Even if it's 
not a factor today due to current production tolerances and HVAC, it must 
become a factor eventually, though maybe not necessarily in our lifetime.



Kind regards



Paul Wilkins



On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:59, Peter Betyounan 
<peter.betyou...@serversaustralia.com.au 
<mailto:peter.betyou...@serversaustralia.com.au> > wrote:

Easy solution , move to all flash, predicable failures and wear.





Tue, 20 Aug at 4:07 pm, <paulwilkins...@gmail.com 
<mailto:paulwilkins...@gmail.com> > wrote:







Has anyone ever noticed a pattern of disks in equatorial latitudes lasting 
significantly longer than say Sydney or Melbourne? I notice the Foucault Period 
for Brisbane is 52hrs vs Melbourne's 39hrs and can't but wonder if this doesn't 
mean Brisbane based DCs will have their disks last 30% longer, or Darwin x3.





Kind regards



Paul Wilkins

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