Update. Apparently our engineers were aware and apparently fixed the issue 
yesterday. Appreciate advice if any further problems

Craig Mulhearn  Technology Advisor
Technology Solutions | Telstra Enterprise
IPT  +61 2 8576 6555  |  M +61 407 438566 I E  craig.mulhe...@team.telstra.com| 
 W  www.telstra.com/enterprise


-----Original Message-----
From: Mulhearn, Craig 
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 3:43 PM
To: 'ausnog@lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings - Brisbane CBD

Hi noggerverse,

I have shared this information internally and it has been forwarded to 
engineering for investigation. We have had staff in Brisbane also notice this 
individually thinking it was an issue with their phone (likely not). Will 
update as info comes to hand and thanks for calling it out.

Craig Mulhearn  Technology Advisor
Technology Solutions | Telstra Enterprise IPT  +61 2 8576 6555  |  M +61 407 
438566 I E  craig.mulhe...@team.telstra.com|  W  www.telstra.com/enterprise

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Today's Topics:

   1. Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings - Brisbane  CBD
      (Bruce Forster)
   2. Re: Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -       Brisbane
      CBD (Mark Smith)
   3. Re: Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -       Brisbane
      CBD (Jake Peterson)
   4. Re: Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -       Brisbane
      CBD (de...@madrock.net)
   5. Re: Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -       Brisbane
      CBD (Bruce Forster)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:28:09 +1000
From: Bruce Forster <br...@tubes.net.au>
To: AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -
        Brisbane        CBD
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Hi noggers,

Hoping someone @ telstra is on the list who can take a look at this one.

You have a radio near central station in Brisbane, approx 180 ann st area that 
is giving off bad time zone data, my phone switched from +10 to +8 and when i 
walked back to the office again back to +10..

I'm based at 300 ann. If you need more data about it please feel free to 
contact me off list.

Screen caps from phone: https://imgur.com/a/hmMv1p7 These were taken at 
11:48pm, and 12:20pm 2nd Oct 2019,

Sorry if there is a page on telstra's site to report this but i guess my google 
fu was bad this time.


--
Regards,

Bruce
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:41:00 +1000
From: Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com>
To: Bruce Forster <br...@tubes.net.au>
Cc: AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -
        Brisbane CBD
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 12:28 Bruce Forster, <br...@tubes.net.au> wrote:

> Hi noggers,
>
> Hoping someone @ telstra is on the list who can take a look at this one.
>
> You have a radio near central station in Brisbane, approx 180 ann st 
> area that is giving off bad time zone data, my phone switched from +10 
> to +8 and when i walked back to the office again back to +10..
>

That's one of those space wormholes that briefly took you to Singapore.



> I'm based at 300 ann. If you need more data about it please feel free 
> to contact me off list.
>
> Screen caps from phone: https://imgur.com/a/hmMv1p7 These were taken 
> at 11:48pm, and 12:20pm 2nd Oct 2019,
>
> Sorry if there is a page on telstra's site to report this but i guess 
> my google fu was bad this time.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Bruce
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 02:41:15 +0000
From: Jake Peterson <ja...@mansol.net.au>
To: Bruce Forster <br...@tubes.net.au>, AUSNOG
        <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -
        Brisbane        CBD
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This happened to me the other week and I put it down to my phone playing up. I 
was at Brisbane Central and on the Telstra network also.

Regards,
Jake

From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Bruce Forster
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:28 PM
To: AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings - Brisbane CBD

Hi noggers,

Hoping someone @ telstra is on the list who can take a look at this one.

You have a radio near central station in Brisbane, approx 180 ann st area that 
is giving off bad time zone data, my phone switched from +10 to +8 and when i 
walked back to the office again back to +10..

I'm based at 300 ann. If you need more data about it please feel free to 
contact me off list.

Screen caps from phone: https://imgur.com/a/hmMv1p7 These were taken at 
11:48pm, and 12:20pm 2nd Oct 2019,

Sorry if there is a page on telstra's site to report this but i guess my google 
fu was bad this time.


--
Regards,

Bruce
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:12:26 +0930
From: <de...@madrock.net>
To: "'Bruce Forster'" <br...@tubes.net.au>
Cc: 'AUSNOG' <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -
        Brisbane        CBD
Message-ID: <09a101d578cb$08d48fa0$1a7daee0$@madrock.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Bruce,



To add to the risk, I was involved in a parliamentary enquiry in NZ when 
working for EY, where customers were being charged extra for calls based on 
call ticketing inaccuracies, resulting from non-synchronised cells.



Other than being very embarrassing for the carrier, it was expensive as they 
were required to correct the over and under customer payments.

When I was reviewing it, I found older nodes were using a centralised Perl 
scripts to periodically log into and reset the time, where newer devices were 
using NTP.

*       The issues was discovered to be a range of things including the 
centralised Perl script not being able to log into the node (wrong passwords), 
new nodes not registered centrally when deployed and NTP not configured.
*       Times varied depending on the node drift and if the technician setup 
old/new nodes properly when deployed.
*       Call ticketing handover when roaming between nodes also negatively 
contributed to the evidence needed to reconcile billing when syncing issues 
exist.



Just a related point. Good luck with getting it sorted.





Thanks

Derek



From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Bruce Forster
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:58 AM
To: AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings - Brisbane CBD



Hi noggers,



Hoping someone @ telstra is on the list who can take a look at this one.



You have a radio near central station in Brisbane, approx 180 ann st area that 
is giving off bad time zone data, my phone switched from +10 to +8 and when i 
walked back to the office again back to +10..



I'm based at 300 ann. If you need more data about it please feel free to 
contact me off list.



Screen caps from phone: https://imgur.com/a/hmMv1p7

These were taken at 11:48pm, and 12:20pm 2nd Oct 2019,



Sorry if there is a page on telstra's site to report this but i guess my google 
fu was bad this time.





--

Regards,

Bruce

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:53:57 +1000
From: Bruce Forster <br...@tubes.net.au>
To: de...@madrock.net
Cc: AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings -
        Brisbane CBD
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Someone from Telstra has acknowledged me in about 8min so at least they are 
aware :)

Regards,

Bruce

sent from my mobile device.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 12:42 pm , <de...@madrock.net> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
>
>
> To add to the risk, I was involved in a parliamentary enquiry in NZ 
> when working for EY, where customers were being charged extra for 
> calls based on call ticketing inaccuracies, resulting from non-synchronised 
> cells.
>
>
>
> Other than being very embarrassing for the carrier, it was expensive 
> as they were required to correct the over and under customer payments.
>
> When I was reviewing it, I found older nodes were using a centralised 
> Perl scripts to periodically log into and reset the time, where newer 
> devices were using NTP.
>
>    - The issues was discovered to be a range of things including the
>    centralised Perl script not being able to log into the node (wrong
>    passwords), new nodes not registered centrally when deployed and NTP not
>    configured.
>    - Times varied depending on the node drift and if the technician setup
>    old/new nodes properly when deployed.
>    - Call ticketing handover when roaming between nodes also negatively
>    contributed to the evidence needed to reconcile billing when syncing issues
>    exist.
>
>
>
> Just a related point. Good luck with getting it sorted.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Bruce 
> Forster
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:58 AM
> *To:* AUSNOG <AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Telstra Mobile network bad time zone settings - 
> Brisbane CBD
>
>
>
> Hi noggers,
>
>
>
> Hoping someone @ telstra is on the list who can take a look at this one.
>
>
>
> You have a radio near central station in Brisbane, approx 180 ann st 
> area that is giving off bad time zone data, my phone switched from +10 
> to +8 and when i walked back to the office again back to +10..
>
>
>
> I'm based at 300 ann. If you need more data about it please feel free 
> to contact me off list.
>
>
>
> Screen caps from phone: https://imgur.com/a/hmMv1p7
>
> These were taken at 11:48pm, and 12:20pm 2nd Oct 2019,
>
>
>
> Sorry if there is a page on telstra's site to report this but i guess 
> my google fu was bad this time.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce
>
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