AAPT certainly were running SS7 over various SDH technologies when I was last 
working on their call centre platform a few years back.


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From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Mark Delany 
<g...@juliet.emu.st>
Sent: Monday, 23 March 2020 15:20
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FYI: Telstra carrier interconnects are full

> Yes. With Telstra, it's an EXTRAORDINARLY big deal. You still have to
> use specific hardware, and SS7 signaling over ISDN

Oh. My bad. I was basing my assumptions on how I've seen voice delivered in the 
US. Even
big ol' bad boy and recalcitrant Telco, AT&T provides SIP over a PNI. At my 
$DayJob we
have a 10G PNI to them. Easily provisioned and managed as 
just-another-IP-network.

I was also under the impression, tho I could be wrong, that voice interconnects 
in the US
are increasingly over private IP networks with SIP. I assumed Australia was 
doing the
same. You are clearly saying "not so".

But ISDN? I still have nightmares over Telstra-variant LAPD state-machines from 
the dark
ages. I thought all that stuff was archaeological by now. Next thing you'll be 
telling me
is that Telstra still carry voice over an ATM transport or some archaic 
plesiochronous
network.


Mark.
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