Hi Giles,

I have emailed you off list.

Cheers, 
Phil


> On 5 Dec 2021, at 5:13 pm, Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yup got it, didn't want to disrupt your sunday! I'll drop you an email with 
> some details
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 3:25 PM Justin Courtney <justinjoncourt...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:justinjoncourt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I replied to you with a contact off list.  Did you get it Giles?
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 14:18 Giles Pollock, <glp...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Not exactly, they are paying for the domain name via Melbourne IT (sigh) and 
> for other email hosting services, which is why this has apparently gone 
> unnoticed for some time. The web hosting and one of the other email hosting 
> services seems to have simply vanished some time ago, a few years after we 
> had a similar issue where it vanished from the bills and I caught on to the 
> fact the bill was way lower than it should have been. I think because it is a 
> small client on shared and very much obsolete infrastructure, nobody ever 
> noticed... The webserver is still running Apache 2.2.16, which went EOL years 
> ago.
> 
> Ideally if the billing situation does get fixed as I expect it will be, I 
> would hope the service would be migrated to infrastructure that isn't so old 
> it could feasibly be entering highschool by now!
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 2:10 PM Nathan Brookfield 
> <nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au <mailto:nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au>> 
> wrote:
> Are they just getting it for free?
> 
> On 5 Dec 2021, at 14:06, Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Apparently not! It is looking more and more like the whole service has been 
> forgotten about. There is also a web and domain hosting arrangement which 
> seems to have vanished, although the service obviously still exists. 
> Interestingly this isn't the first time this has happened either, but being 
> such a small thing nobody ever really noticed.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:57 PM Nathan Brookfield 
> <nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au <mailto:nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au>> 
> wrote:
> They’ve probably just been billed by Vocus directly?
> 
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> On 5 Dec 2021, at 13:49, Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've checked with my client and they've never had any dealings with 
> Commander, so if it has gone to them, then chances are the service has fallen 
> through the cracks. I suspect Monday will be rather interesting if I have to 
> try and work my way through the contact centres to figure out where it has 
> all gone!
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:37 PM Andrew Robinson <and...@thetubes.com.au 
> <mailto:and...@thetubes.com.au>> wrote:
> I believe that it may be managed by Commander. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net 
> <mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Justin Courtney 
> <justinjoncourt...@gmail.com <mailto:justinjoncourt...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 1:35:03 PM
> To: Giles Pollock <glp...@gmail.com <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>> 
> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bit of a long shot but...
>  
> [This email originated from outside the organisation]
> 
> 
> Do you know it's name, a realm, something?  
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 13:33 Giles Pollock, <glp...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It was once eftel, and prior to that it was a company called impaq back in 
> the early 2000s. I know eftel has moved some of their mail services over to 
> iprimus resources, but this particular server definitely hasn't been moved....
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:28 PM Justin Courtney <justinjoncourt...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:justinjoncourt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Which provider is it?  Eftel mostly but not completely went one way.
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 12:28 Giles Pollock, <glp...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:glp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Does anyone know who now looks after the old email services inherited from 
> Eftel, which Eftel inherited from previous other consolidation/merger 
> activities? I'm fairly sure an email server hosting a client of mine has been 
> forgotten about and has managed to run out of disk space, and I can't seem to 
> get hold of anyone who recognises it actually exists...
> 
> Starting to feel a bit like this has come to life... http://bash.org/?5273 
> <http://bash.org/?5273>
> 
> Giles
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