Minutes of the 28th March 2024 Teleconference

[Andrew Josey via austin-group-l at The Open Group]

All
Enclosed are the minutes of the Thursday meeting last week
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 28th March 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1396 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         2nd April 2024


Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   
Apologies
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systemss Devs

* General news

We will not meet on April 1st.

The calls will continue on WEBEX for the moment.

* Current Business


1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797

We will continue this item next time that Paul is available (expected in April).

Bug 1807: Allow number of redirection open files to be up to OPEN_MAX / 2 - 1   
      Rejected
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1807

Making this change would actually have no effect on the highest
fixed fd number a portable script can use in a redirection. This
is because if the limit is OPEN_MAX/2 - 1, a portable script has
to assume OPEN_MAX could have its lowest allowed value, _POSIX_OPEN_MAX,
which happens to be 20, and 20/2 - 1 is 9.

So a use such as "exec 200<lock.file" as stated in the bug description
would still be non-portable.

Higher fd numbers could be used if they are not fixed, by querying
OPEN_MAX using getconf and using this to calculate a suitable fd
number to put in a variable, then using "eval" to have the variable
be expanded in a redirection, but the number of scripts that would
take advantage of that is likely to be very small. Scripts can
already use higher fd numbers, when supported by the particular
shell being used, by checking using "eval" whether the number they
want to use is accepted.

Therefore this bug is being rejected.

Bug 1808: Add option -a to getconf utility OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1808

We will continue this item next time

Next Steps 
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  Mon 2024-04-08 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)


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