All
Enclosed are the minutes of the Monday call this week.

Note that since the call we received formal news of the approval
of the document by IEEE:

"I am pleased to inform you that P1003.1 was approved as a revised standard by 
the IEEE SA Standards Board on 20 May 2024."
regards
Andrew
================

Minutes of the 20th May 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1406 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         22nd May 2024


Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   
Apologies
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA 
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR (joining late)

* General news

There will be no meeting on Monday May 27.

The approval vote on 1003.1 closes today (after the meeting
we received notice of approval as IEEE Standard 1003.1-2024)

The ISO/IEC ballot closes on June 28.

* Current Business

1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797


We expect to continue this item this coming Thursday
(Paul has confirmed availability).


Bug 1818: Add strcasestr() & strcasestr_l() OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1818
Action: Eric B to ask The Open Group if they are willing to sponsor
these functions for Issue 9.

Bug 1822: Define splitting using a null field separator Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1822

This item is tagged for Issue 9.

Page and line numbers are for issue 8 draft 4.1.
On P2617, L85671 section awk (EXTENDED DESCRIPTION) change:
    If FS is a null string, the behavior is unspecified.
to:
    If FS is a null string, each character shall become a separate field.

We started on this item. Notes are in the etherpad.  We will continue
on this item next time.

Bug 1824: cp: directories and symlinks OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1824

Action: Eric B to contact the GNU coreutils maintainers to ask for
their input, particularly on the behavior noted in bugnote 6788.

Bug 1825: Does releasing a reader lock carries a "release" memory order 
semantic?  Withdrawn
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1825

Withdrawn by the submitter.

Bug 1826: du: space used between <size> and <pathname>, while common 
implementations use tab Rejected
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1826


Bug 1827: Standardize gzip(1) cli interface instead of adding it to compress(1) 
Rejected
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1827

Bug 1041 was resolved more than 7 years ago and had been included
in draft versions of the standard for more than 4 years before bug
1827 was submitted.  Filing a bug to reverse this after the IEEE
and The Open Group ballots have been completed and while the ISO
ballot on the current version of the standard is in its final stage
is way too late to make the requested changes.  Furthermore, these
issues were discussed before the changes were approved seven years
ago and the standard developers believed then and still believe
that including the changes to compress was better than adding several
other sets of compression utilities.  Therefore, this bug is rejected.


Bug 1828: Rationale is out of date  Accepted
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1828

This item is tagged for TC1-2024

Bug 1829: symlink() and terminating null bytes Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1829

This item is tagged for TC1-2024

Make the changes suggested in the Desired Action and in Note: 0006776. 

Bug 1830: off-by-one error regarding offset maximum Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1830

This item is tagged for TC1-2024

Change:
    For regular files, no data transfer shall occur past the offset
    maximum established in the open file description associated
    with fildes.
to:
    For regular files, no data shall be written at positions greater
    than or equal to the offset maximum established in the open
    file description associated with fildes. If the starting position
    is greater than or equal to the offset maximum (and nbyte is
    greater than 0), the request shall fail; otherwise, only as
    many bytes as there is room for shall be written.


Bug 1831: how do you get the timestamp resolution of a symlink? OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1831

Action: EricB to ask The Open Group to sponsor this change.

Closing 786 as a duplicate of this, since this is more up to date
and refers to an implementation that is expected to exist by the
time this is standardized.

Bug 786: pathconfat() is missing Dup of 1831
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=786
Closed, duplicate of 1831.


Next Steps 
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The next call is on:
  Thu 2024-05-23 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
  Mon 2024-05-27 No meeting
  Thu 2024-05-30 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

Apologies in Advance:
    Eric Blake 2024-05-20, 2024-05-23
  
The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
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An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as 
below:

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