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Minutes of the 24th October 2024 Teleconference Austin-1432 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 24th October 2024 Attendees: Andrew Josey, The Open Group Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR Geoff Clare, The Open Group Eric Ackermann, CISPA Apologies Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Tom Thompson, IEEE The ISO status remains unchanged. We have heard back from the IEEE about the candidate errata items. The resolution is that we need to handle these through the technical corrigenda process. Andrew took an action to start preparation for a PAR submission at IEEE. We also agreed that we would review the ISO editorial comments to see whether any were editorial corrections that we felt should also be included in a TC. * Carried forward Bug 1851: FD_CLOFORK should not be preserved across exec https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1851 This item still open. AI: Andrew to try to contact Solaris, other BSD, AIX, and macOS for comments. Andrew has partially completed this, sending notes to contacts for Solaris and macOS. A response has been received for Solaris. It does not appear as if we will get further responses on this one. * Current Business Bug 1854: dd iflags=fullblock should be iflag=fullblock OPEN Accepted as Marked https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1854 An interpretation is required. This item is tagged for TC1-2024. Interpretation response: The standard states that dd accepts operands of the form iflags=fullblock, and conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: This addition to the standard was intended to match existing practice, which is iflag=fullblock. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): Change all occurrences of "iflags", except in CHANGE HISTORY, on the dd page to "iflag". Bug 1861: xargs -L broken by 0000243 resolution Accepted as Marked. https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1861 A comment was received and the interpretation has been revised. See bugnote 6934 https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1861#c6934 Andrew to restart the interpretation review period. Bug 1853: xargs -x lost an important detail between Issue 6 and 7 Accepted as Marked https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1853 This item is tagged for TC1-2024. On page 3600 line 123148 section xargs (SYNOPSIS), change: xargs [-prtx] [-E eofstr|-0] [<XSI>-I replstr|-L number</XSI>| -n number] to: xargs [-prt] [-E eofstr|-0] [<XSI>-I replstr|-L number [-x]|</XSI > -n number [-x]] After page 3600 line 123162 section xargs (DESCRIPTION), add a paragraph: If one or more arguments are read from standard input, each constructed command line shall include at least one argument from standard input; it shall be an error if a command line that will fit in the implied or specified size (see the -s option) cannot be constructed containing even one argument. On page 3601 line 123206 section xargs (OPTIONS, -I), delete: Option -x shall be forced on. On page 3602 line 123241 section xargs (OPTIONS, -x), change: Terminate if a constructed command line will not fit in the implied or specified size (see the -s option above). to: Terminate if a command line containing number arguments (see the -n option) <XSI>or number lines (see the -L option)</XSI> that will fit in the implied or specified size (see the -s option) cannot be constructed. Applications should use the -x option when it would not be appropriate for constructed commands to contain fewer than number arguments; for example, when executing the diff utility with -n 2 in order to compare pairs of files. After page 3605 line 123412 section xargs (RATIONALE), add a paragraph: Editions of this standard between 2008 and 2024 did not require xargs to terminate if -x and -n number were both specified and a command line containing number arguments could not be constructed. This requirement was unintentionally lost while simplifying the description of -x. These editions continued to show (in EXAMPLES) the use of -x to force all executions of diff to be passed two operands. The requirement has now been reinstated. In addition, prior to 2008 it was unclear whether conforming XSI implementations were required to accept -x with -L number (because although this combination was described in the text, the SYNOPSIS did not require it to be accepted). Editions between 2008 and 2024 required the combination to be accepted, but with the same defect as for -x -n number. The requirements for -L now match those for -n. Some implementations accept -x with other options besides -n and -L, but there is no reason for portable applications to use such combinations and this standard does not require them to be accepted. Bug 1862: Missing ETXTBSY error for fexecve() Accepted https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1862 This item is tagged for TC1-2024. 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