hi all
Enclosed are the minutes from yesterdays meeting
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 30th January 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1444 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        31st January 2025

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
Apologies
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group

We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings (unchanged) with
the next meeting on February 13th and no meeting on February 6th.

There is no change in status of progress with ISO approval.
Andrew will touch base with parties regarding ISO status and whether to
proceed the alternate IEEE PSDO route to ISO.

The PAR for the TC1 was on the agenda for the Jan 29th IEEE NesCOM meeting.
Tom reported that it progressed as expected and will be formally
approved in mid February.

* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue.
(completed by sending an email to the reflector: 
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

* Current Business

Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization 
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864

We discussed this item that had been tabled until Issue 8 TC 1.

AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3.
The action was completed, but no response received as yet.


Bug 1903: Default target description omits pattern rules
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1903
Rejected, closed.

On P2343, L105906-105914 the standard says:

    The application shall ensure that the target portion is a valid
    target name (see Target Rules, on page 3137) of the form .s2
    or .s1.s2 (where .s1 and .s2 are suffixes that have been given
    as prerequisites of the .SUFFIXES special target and s1 and s2
    do not contain any <slash> or <period> characters.) If there
    is only one <period> in the target, it is a single-suffix
    inference rule. Targets with two periods are double-suffix
    inference rules. Inference rules can have only one target before
    the <colon>.

so a rule that starts with %.o:%.c is a double-suffix inference rule.

Note also that macro definitions can be included in makefiles, but
macro definitions do not have targets. Since they don't have targets,
a target cannot be found in a macro definition.

We do not see any problem with the current wording in the standard.
Therefore, this bug is rejected.

Bug 0001616: Standardize mktemp utility 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1616

We briefly discussed the status of this bug report. It is confirmed that
this will be sponsored by The Open Group.

The same status applies to getpeerid, memrchr, tzalloc/tzfree, localtime_rz, 
mktime_z,
strcasestr, strcasestr_l

Similarly The Open Group will sponsor changes arising from bugs 1831, 1832
Next Steps 
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The next calls are on
 Thu 2025-02-06 No meeting
 Thu 2025-02-13 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

Apologies in Advance:
    Nick Stoughton 2025-02-06, 2025-02-13

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