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Enclosed are the minutes from yesterdays meeting
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Andrew
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Minutes of the 13th February 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1445 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        14 February 2025

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Mark Brown
Apologies
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Tom Thompson, IEEE

Mark Brown joined the meeting to demo the update to the Mantis bug
reporting system that we plan to rollout and to agree the downtime
we will need to deploy. We went through the new user interface which
has the existing features, discussed whether some additional features
could be supported and agreed that next week the current
austingroupbugs.net site will be down while the software is updated.

We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings , no meeting on
February 20. Next meetings on February 27 and March 6.

After the meeting Andrew received confirmation from IEEE that the
PAR for TC1 has been approved.

* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue.  (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization 
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864

We discussed this item that had been tabled until Issue 8 TC 1.

AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3.  The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.


* Current Business

Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
    Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
    to reflect this fact.  Is this what implementation actually do?

Andrew took an action to ask for input on what other implementations
do. (completed on the mailing list)

Bug 1905: Conflicting text about async-signal-safety
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1905
Accepted, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

Bug 1906: Mention O_CLOEXEC and O_CLOFORK in the unistd.h change history.
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1906
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.


Bug 1616: Standardize mktemp utility   OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1616

We reviewed the proposals in the bug.

The -u option should be omitted, since its use is discouraged.  The
desired action can be used as a starting point, but needs quite a
lot of work on the wording and there are several missing sections.
A.I. Eric B: Flesh out the text in the bug report for a fully
developed man pa


Next Steps 
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The next calls are on
    Thu 2025-02-20 NO MEETING
    Thu 2025-02-27 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
    Thu 2025-03-06 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

The calls are for 90 minutes

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Bugs are at:
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