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Enclosed are the minutes of the thursday meeting this week
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 6th March 2025 Teleconference Austin-1447 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 9 March 2025
Attendees:
Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Eric Ackermann, CISPA
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group
Note that daylight savings times starts in the US on 2025-03-09
and so the meetings will be 1 hour earlier in Europe un 2025-03-31.
We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, adding a meeting
on March 20th. Please note that the US adjusts its clocks
Andrew introduced Haelwenn who has joined The Open Group and is
working with Geoff.
We discussed the ISO status, with the direction that the project
will be withdrawn at JTC 1, and submitted instead by IEEE
through the PSDO process. There are various questions to answer
about the future status of the relationship with ISO/IEC JTC 1 SC22
that Andrew and Nick will take on with the ISO contacts.
* Open Business
Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876
Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).
Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864
AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.
Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
to reflect this fact. Is this what implementation actually do?
Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other implementations
do and some feedback has been received so need to return to this on a future
call.
* Current Business
Bug 1911: Clearify & consistently define "subexpression" for ERE.
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1911
Action: Geoff to propose wording changes (completed after the meeting).
Bug 1616: Standardize mktemp utility OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1616
We discussed this item at length.
A.I Eric B: Prepare a script that will collect behaviors of these
various cases, and output from running that script on multiple
platforms
A.I. Don submit a separate bug for ... Multiple utilities (mkdir,
mkfifo, touch, link, ln, sh, m4, gencat, and now mktemp) have OUTPUT
FILES: None even though they can create one or more output files.
Next Steps
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The next calls are on
Thu 2025-03-13 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
Thu 2025-03-20 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
The calls are for 90 minutes
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Apologies in advance
Eric Blake, 2025-03-13
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd
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for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)
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