Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote in
 <Z9Aqr5nseOcPND3d@localhost>:
 |Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote, on 11 Mar 2025:
 ...
 |> The remaining problem was that exec doesn't necessarily pass on
 |> FDs > 2.
 ...
 |> [.] and as shells *can* choose not to pass
 |> on FDs > 2 [.]
 |
 |I think previous discussion identified ksh as the only shell which
 |closes fds > 2; I would expect that in all other shells (or, at least,
 |all the shells whose behaviour we usually pay attention to) n<&n is a
 |no-op as long as fd n is already open.  From my testing it looks like
 |it is a no-op in bash, dash, mksh and zsh.

I *think* kre@ has done this not too long ago for the NetBSD
(a)sh.  (In fact i *think* just ~"last week" a NetBSD old hander
came over with problems because the newest NetBSD ships with this
updated shell, but it was their usual long thread and i only
shortly had a look.)

 |So I would support updating the standard to require that n<&n and
 |n>&n are always a no-op if fd n is open, except that if the shell
 |normally closes fds > 2, that were opened with exec, when it executes
 |a non-built-in utility, then applying n<&n or n>&n to such commands
 |causes fd n to remain open.
 ...
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--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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