hi all Enclosed are the minutes from this weeks meeting regards Andrew --------------
Minutes of the 13th November 2025 Teleconference Austin-1472 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 15th November 2025 Attendees: Andrew Josey, The Open Group Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Geoff Clare, The Open Group Mark Brown Dhruv McElwaine Apologies Eric Ackermann, CISPA Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group * General business We learned recently that Don Cragun has passed away, and spent the start of the meeting by remembering Don. Don was one of the first members of the IEEE 1003.2 working group, leading that group until he helped form the Austin Group. He also participated in the X/Open Commands and Utilities work group. His guidance, knowledge, attention to detail, and insistence on following our processes and procedures will be sorely missed. We will request an acknowledgement to be added to the next publication. Don was the IEEE OR, and we will need to replace this role. (After the meeting) Andrew completed the action to reach out to Joe Gwinn and Malia Zaman (our IEEE-SA rep) regarding finding a replacement IEEE SA OR. We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting is December 4th Mark Brown noted that he felt the bot attacks on the web site were now under control. * Carried Forward Bug 1927: Add sponge utility https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1927 [Action to Eric B] Start a 30-day request for comments on whether The Open Group should sponsor the addition of this interface. glibc realloc() behavior [Action to Eric B] - respond to the thread and invite Alejandro to open a bug against POSIX if we still need to address wording issues Update 2025-06-26: discussion on mailing lists is still ongoing; EricB or Alejandro will open a bug soon Bug 1941: Add widely-implemented options to grep https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1941 We understand Mirabilos runs a custom distribution of BSD: http://www.mirbsd.org/about.htm http://www.mirbsd.org/htman/i386/man1/grep.htm ACTION: David Wheeler to do more research and update the bug before next meeting * New Business Bug 1913: clarify/define the meaning of n<&n and m>&m redirections https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1913 Accepted as marked, interpretation required, tc1-2024 tag Interpretation response in bugnote 7300, see https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1913#c7300 Action: Andrew to restart the interp timer (completed after the meeting) Bug 1951: getopts example oversight https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1951 Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag Page 2982 line 99728 Change ? to * Action to EricB: line 99688 uses basename "$0" without --; worth creating a new issue and seeing if the standard has other such instances? Bug 1952: (n)gettext and NLSPATH https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1952 Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag As described on page 1193, lines 40723-40732, NLSPATH is used first, but (if set) is not the only means to locate a messages object. Additionally, NLSPATH is a path like string ... with multiple directories separated by ':'. Thus an application can extend NLSPATH if it wants to add a temporary messages object, such as might be used by an installer. On p173 line 6080 change <blockquote><i>NLSPATH</i> has precedence over <i>TEXTDOMAINDIR</i></blockquote> to <blockquote>If a messages object can be found via both <i>NLSPATH</i> and <i>TEXTDOMAINDIR</i>,<i> NLSPATH</i> has precedence over <i>TEXTDOMAINDIR</i></blockquote> (XSI shaded) Bug 1953: getdelim() behavior is ambiguous on empty file https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1953 Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag BSD sources: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/blob/main/lib/libc/stdio/getdelim.c Use option 1 in the desired action. * Next Steps Bugs to return to, bugs 1949, 1616, 1941. The next call is on Thu 2025-12-04 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup) -------- Andrew Josey The Open Group Austin Group Chair Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Apex Plaza, Forbury Road,Reading,Berks.RG1 1AX,England To learn how we maintain your privacy, please review The Open Group Privacy Statement at http://www.opengroup.org/privacy. To unsubscribe/opt-out from this mailing list login to The Open Group collaboration portal at https://collaboration.opengroup.org/operational/portal.php?action=unsub&listid=2481
