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> On Dec 10, 2024, at 12:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> 
> 1) <!-- [rfced] How may we update the abbreviated title to better align with 
> the
> document title? The acronym MOPS does not appear elsewhere in the
> document, and the document title uses "Extended Reality" rather than "AR".
> 
> Note: The abbreviated title only appears in the pdf output (in the running
> header at the top of each page).
> 
> Original:
>  MOPS AR Use Case
> 
> Perhaps:
>  XR Use Case
> -->
> 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] The document title uses "a Use Case" and "Extended Reality
> Application" (singular), while the abstract uses "use cases" and
> "Extended Reality (XR) applications" (plural). Please review and let us
> know if any updates are needed.
> 
> Document title:
>  Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality Application on Edge
>  Computing Infrastructure
> 
> Abstract:
>   This document explores the issues involved in the use of Edge
>   Computing resources to operationalize media use cases that involve
>   Extended Reality (XR) applications.
>   ...
>   In particular, this document
>   discusses those applications that run on devices ...
> -->
> 
> 
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the placement of this sentence in the
> abstract. Would it be helpful to move this sentence to be the last
> sentence in the abstract? Or do you prefer the current location?
> 
> Original:
>   The intended audience for this document are network operators who are
>   interested in providing edge computing resources to operationalize
>   the requirements of such applications.  
> -->
> 
> 
> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Will readers understand what "This" refers to in 
> the
> second sentence below? The first sentence is included for context.
> 
> Original:
>   Some XR applications
>   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
>   recognize specific objects.  This is then used to overlay information
>   on the video being displayed to the user.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Some XR applications
>   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
>   recognize specific objects.  This processing is then used to overlay 
> information
>   on the video being displayed to the user.
> 
> Or:
>   Some XR applications
>   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
>   recognize specific objects.  The objects are then used to overlay 
> information
>   on the video being displayed to the user.  
> -->
> 
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: May we update "XR applications such as AR" and "XR
> applications such as AR and VR" as follows for clarity?
> 
> Original:
>   Some XR applications
>   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
>   recognize specific objects.
>   ...
>   In addition, XR
>   applications such as AR and VR will also require generation of new
>   video frames to be played to the user.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Some XR applications
>   (such as AR applications) require  real-time processing of video streams to
>   recognize specific objects.
>   ...
>   In addition, other XR
>   applications (such as AR and VR applications) will also require generation
>   of new video frames to be played to the user.  
> 
> Or:
>   Some XR applications
>   (specifically, AR applications) require  real-time processing of video 
> streams to
>   recognize specific objects.
>   ...
>   In addition, other XR
>   applications (specifically, AR and VR applications) will also require 
> generation
>   of new video frames to be played to the user.  
> -->
> 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: May we combine these sentences as follows to 
> improve
> readability?
> 
> Original:
>   Examples of form factors include Head Mounted Displays
>   (HMD) such as Optical-see through HMDs and video-see-through HMDs and
>   Hand-held displays.  Smart phones with video cameras and location
>   sensing capabilities using systems such as a global navigation
>   satellite system (GNSS) are another example of such devices.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Examples of form factors include the following: 1) head-mounted displays
>   (HMDs), such as optical see-through HMDs and video see-through HMDs, 2)
>   hand-held displays, and 3) smartphones with video cameras and location-
>   sensing capabilities using systems such as a global navigation
>   satellite system (GNSS).
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Is "motivates" the correct word choice here? Would
> "addresses", "examines", or something similar be better?
> 
> Original:
>   This document motivates these issues
>   with a use-case that is presented in the following sections.
> -->
> 
> 
> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 2: We updated "application with XR systems'
> characteristics" as "application with characteristics of an XR
> system". Would it be helpful to further update in one of the ways shown
> below?
> 
> Original:
>   A use case is now described that involves an application with XR
>   systems' characteristics.
> 
> Current:
>   This use case involves an application with characteristics of an
>   XR system.  
> 
> Perhaps:
>   This use case involves an XR application.
> 
> Or:
>   This use case involves an XR application running on a mobile device.
> -->
> 
> 
> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Will readers know what "the previous step" is?
> 
> Original:
>   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
>   properties described in the previous step and overlay the video on
>   the XR device's display
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
>   properties described in the previous section and overlay the video on
>   the XR device's display
> 
> Or:
>   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
>   properties described above and overlay the video on
>   the XR device's display
> -->
> 
> 
> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Should this sentence mention solutions in 
> addition to
> challenges? We note the title of the section is "Technical Challenges and
> Solutions".
> 
> Original:
>   This section will
>   discuss the challenges such applications can face as a consequence.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   This section
>   discusses the challenges such applications can face as a consequence and
>   offers some solutions.
> -->
> 
> 
> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Is "indicates" the best word choice here? Would
> "recommends", "suggests", or something similar be better?
> 
> Original:
>   Towards this end, a 3GPP study indicates an Ultra
>   Reliable Low Latency of 0.1ms to 1ms for communication between an
>   Edge server and User Equipment (UE) [URLLC].
> -->
> 
> 
> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Please review the placement of the sentence 
> starting
> with "Such operational parameters" in the last paragraph of this
> section. Would it be helpful to incorporate this sentence into the first
> sentence of the paragraph?
> 
> Original:
>   However, heavy-tailed nature of several operational parameters makes
>   prediction-based adaptation by ABR algorithms sub-optimal [ABR_2].
>   ...
>   Such operational parameters include but are not limited
>   to buffer occupancy, throughput, client-server latency, and variable
>   transmission times.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   However, the heavy-tailed nature of several operational parameters
>   (e.g., buffer occupancy, throughput, client-server latency, and variable
>   transmission times) makes prediction-based adaptation by ABR algorithms 
> sub-optimal
>   [ABR_2]. 
> -->
> 
> 
> 14) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Will readers understand what "This" refers to in 
> the
> second sentence below? The first sentence is included for context.
> 
> Original:
>   Other subtle issues with these distributions include
>   the "expectation paradox" [HEAVY_TAIL_1] where the longer the wait
>   for an event, the longer a further need to wait and the issue of
>   mismatch between the size and count of events [HEAVY_TAIL_1].  This
>   makes designing an algorithm for adaptation error-prone and
>   challenging.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Other subtle issues with these
>   distributions include the "expectation paradox" [HEAVY_TAIL_1] (the
>   longer the wait for an event, the longer a further need to wait) and
>   the mismatch between the size and count of events [HEAVY_TAIL_1].
>   These issues make designing an algorithm for adaptation error-prone and
>   challenging.
> -->
> 
> 
> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Would it be helpful to point readers to a 
> specific
> section here?
> 
> Original:
>   As discussed earlier, the parameters that capture the characteristics
>   of XR application behavior are heavy-tailed.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   As discussed in Section 1, the parameters that capture the characteristics
>   of XR application behavior are heavy-tailed.
> -->
> 
> 
> 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: We are having trouble understanding 
> "distribution of
> arrival times between XR application invocation". Perhaps "invocation"
> should be "invocations" (plural), or perhaps a word missing ("between XR
> application invocation and X")? Please review.
> 
> Original:
>   Examples of such
>   parameters include the distribution of arrival times between XR
>   application invocation, the amount of data transferred, and the
>   inter-arrival times of packets within a session.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Examples of such
>   parameters include the distribution of arrival times between XR
>   application invocations, the amount of data transferred, and the
>   inter-arrival times of packets within a session.  
> -->
> 
> 
> 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Please note that RFC 9450 is not a DETNET WG
> document; it is a RAW WG document (see
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9450/). In addition, [RFC8939],
> [RFC9023], and [RFC9450] have been published, so they are no longer
> "being developed". How may we updated this sentence?
> 
> Original:
>   Providing Edge server support for the techniques being developed at
>   the DETNET Working Group at the IETF [RFC8939], [RFC9023], [RFC9450]
>   could guarantee performance of XR applications. 
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Providing support for Edge servers in techniques
>   such as those described in [RFC8939], [RFC9023], and [RFC9450]
>   could guarantee performance of XR applications. 
> -->
> 
> 
> 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Is [RFC2210] is the correct citation here, or 
> should
> it be [RFC2112]?  We ask because we see only one instance of "quality of
> service" in the text of RFC 2210, and the title of RFC 2112 is
> "Specification of Guaranteed Quality of Service".
> 
> Original:
>  Another option for the network operators could be to deploy equipment that
>  supports differentiated services [RFC2475] or per-connection quality-
>  of-service guarantees [RFC2210].
> -->
> 
> 
> 19) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: May we move the following sentence to appear
> before Table 1 rather than after it?
> 
> Original:
>   Thus, the provisioning of edge servers in terms of the number of
>   servers, the topology, where to place them, the assignment of link
>   capacity, CPUs and GPUs should keep the above factors in mind.
> -->
> 
> 
> 20) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: What is the relationship between Table 2 and
> [METRICS_6]? We do not see the table in [METRIC_6].
> 
> Original:
>   The following Table 2 [METRICS_6] shows a taxonomy of applications
>   with their associated required response times and bandwidths.
> -->
> 
> 
> 21) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: FYI - We updated "section 5.1" to "Section 4.1"
> here. Also, because Table 1 appears in Section 4.1, we updated to only
> mention Section 4.1.
> 
> Original:
>   Additionally, the required bandwidth for our use case as
>   discussed in section 5.1, Table 1, is 200Mbps-1000Mbps.
> 
> Current:
>   Additionally, the required bandwidth for our use case
>   is 200 to 1000 Mbps (see Section 4.1).
> -->
> 
> 
> 22) <!-- [rfced] Section 7: We do not see explicit mention of "streaming
> applications" in [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2]. Please confirm that
> these citations and the phrasing of the text are correct.
> 
> Original:
>   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to other
>   streaming applications [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], [NIST2].
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to those
>   described in [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2].
> 
> Or:
>   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to those for 
> other
>   streaming applications. See [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2].
> -->
> 
> 
> 23) <!-- [rfced] Section 8 (Informative References)
> 
> a) We added DOIs and URLs to some reference entries. Please review for
> correctness.
> 
> 
> b) FYI - We updated the title of this reference entry as follows. Let us know
> any concerns.
> 
> Original:
>   [AUGMENTED]
>              Schmalstieg, D. S. and T.H. Hollerer, "Augmented
>              Reality",  Addison Wesley, 2016.
> 
> Updated:
>   [AUGMENTED]
>              Schmalstieg, D. and T. Höllerer, "Augmented Reality:
>              Principles and Practice", Addison-Wesley Professional,
>              2016, <https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/augmented-
>              reality-principles/9780133153217/>.
> 
> 
> c) FYI - We updated the date in this reference entry from 2020 to 2022 per
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10488. Let us know any concerns.
> 
> Original:
>   [HEAVY_TAIL_2]
>              Taleb, N., "The Statistical Consequences of Fat Tails",
>              STEM Academic Press, 2020.
> 
> Updated:
>   [HEAVY_TAIL_2]
>              Taleb, N., "Statistical Consequences of Fat Tails: Real
>              World Preasymptotics, Epistemology, and Applications",
>              Revised Edition, STEM Academic Press, 2022,
>              <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10488>.
> 
> 
> d) FYI - We updated the date from 1982 to 2007 in this reference entry to
> match the most current version of the book. Let us know any concerns.
> 
> See: 
> https://www.wiley.com/en-us/A+Primer+in+Data+Reduction%3A+An+Introductory+Statistics+Textbook-p-9780471101352
> 
> Original:
>   [HEAVY_TAIL_3]
>              Ehrenberg, A., "A Primer in Data Reduction.", John Wiley,
>              London, 1982.
> 
> Updated:
>   [HEAVY_TAIL_3]
>              Ehrenberg, A., "A Primer in Data Reduction: An
>              Introductory Statistics Textbook", John Wiley and Sons,
>              2007, <https://www.wiley.com/en-us/A+Primer+in+Data+Reduct
>              ion%3A+An+Introductory+Statistics+Textbook-
>              p-9780471101352>.
> 
> 
> e) FYI - We updated the title of this reference entry as follows (i.e., added
> "gDLS:"). Let us know any concerns.
> 
> Original:
>   [SLAM_2]   Sweeny, C., Fragoso, V., Hollerer, T., and M. Turk, "A
>              scalable solution to the generalized pose and scale
>              problem", In European Conference on Computer Vision, pp.
>              16-31, 2014.
> 
> Perhaps: 
>   [SLAM_2]   Sweeny, C., Fragoso, V., Höllerer, T., and M. Turk, "gDLS:
>              A Scalable Solution to the Generalized Pose and Scale
>              Problem", Computer Vision - ECCV 2014, pp. 16-31,
>              DOI 10.1007/978-3-319-10593-2_2, 2014,
>              <https://link.springer.com/
>              chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-10593-2_2>.
> -->
> 
> 
> 24) <!-- [rfced] We note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. If no
> objections, we will update to the form on the right (i.e., the lowercase
> form). We see a mix of uppercase and lowercase use, but lowercase seems
> more common. In addition, the lowercase form aligns with usage in several
> other RFCs (e.g., RFC 9556).
> 
> Edge Computing vs. Edge computing vs. edge computing
> 
> Edge device vs. Edge Device vs. edge device
> 
> Edge server vs. edge server
> 
> Edge vs. edge
> -->
> 
> 
> 25) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We added expansions for the following abbreviations
> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> 
> Software-Defined Networking (SDN)
> Graphics Processing Units (GPUs)
> -->
> 
> 
> 26) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
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> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
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> 
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
> still be reviewed as a best practice.
> 
> In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated for 
> clarity.  
> While the NIST website 
> <https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1>
>  
> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.  
> "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone.
> -->
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/rv
> 
> 
> 
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> RFC9699 (draft-ietf-mops-ar-use-case-18)
> 
> Title            : Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality 
> Application on Edge Computing Infrastructure
> Author(s)        : R. Krishna, A. Rahman
> WG Chair(s)      : Leslie Daigle, Kyle Rose
> 
> Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Mahesh Jethanandani
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