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Please review mail in this thread and let us know if we can be of assistance during your AUTH48 review. Thank you. RFC Editor/mf > On Dec 2, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Authors, > > Just a friendly reminder that this document awaits author action. > > Please see the AUTH48 status page at http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9626. > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor/mf > > >> On Nov 4, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Authors, >> >> Please see mail below regarding this document as well as our cluster-wide >> email with questions relating to all three related documents. >> >> This document set has been in AUTH48 since mid-August. Please let us know >> if there is anything we can do to facilitate moving the AUTH48 review >> forward. >> >> Thank you. >> >> RFC Editor/mf >> >> >>> On Oct 21, 2024, at 9:58 AM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Authors, >>> >>> Just a ping that this reply from Zahed requires author action. Please also >>> see our list of document-specific questions and our email regarding queries >>> affecting the cluster of documents as a whole (originally sent 8/12/24). >>> >>> We will await your response prior to moving this document (and its >>> companions) forward in the publication process. >>> >>> Please see the AUTH48 status of this document at >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9626. >>> >>> Please see further cluster information at >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C324. >>> >>> We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> RFC Editor/mf >>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 9:31 AM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> For bullet 4 where AD opinion has been asked, I would first like to get >>>> the opinion from the authors if they are OK with the changes or not. >>>> >>>> So, Authors please review the proposed changes in bullet 4 and send your >>>> opinion. >>>> >>>> //Zahed >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:06 PM Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Authors and *AD, >>>> >>>> Just a friendly weekly reminder that this document awaits your attention. >>>> Please see the message below as well as our separate email detailing >>>> questions about the full cluster. >>>> >>>> Please let us know if we can be of assistance during your AUTH48 review. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> RFC Editor/mf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2024, at 10:27 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Authors and *AD, >>>>> >>>>> [AD - please see question 4 below] >>>>> >>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as >>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. >>>>> >>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in >>>>> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Please review whether "e.g." in the following should >>>>> instead be "i.e.": >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> Because of inter-frame dependencies, it should ideally switch video >>>>> streams at a point where the first frame from the new speaker can be >>>>> decoded by recipients without prior frames, e.g. switch on an >>>>> intra-frame. >>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] Should "field" or some other noun follow >>>>> "refresh_frame_flags" in this sentence? Or is this referring to >>>>> the flags (as the verb "are" is plural)? >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> The D bit MUST be 1 if the refresh_frame_flags in the VP9 payload >>>>> uncompressed header are all 0, otherwise it MUST be 0. >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] [*AD] We see several (similar) sentences like the example >>>>> below where it might be difficult for the reader to correclty >>>>> understand what part(s) of the sentence the keyword MUST applies >>>>> to. We wonder if a rewrite may be helpful to the reader, >>>>> possibly using a list... Please see the example below (again, >>>>> other similar instances exist in the document) and let us know if >>>>> an update like one of the following might work. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> >>>>> The D bit MUST be 1 when the NAL unit header NRI field is 0, or an >>>>> aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL units >>>>> with NRI=0, otherwise it MUST be 0. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps A (the "when" clause applies to both the D bit being set to 1 or >>>>> NRI=0): >>>>> >>>>> When the NAL unit header NRI field is 0, the D bit MUST be either 1 or >>>>> an aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL >>>>> units with NRI=0. When the NAL unit header NRI field is not set to 0, >>>>> the D bit MUST be 0. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps B (the "when" clause only applies to the D bit being 0): >>>>> >>>>> The D bit MUST be: >>>>> >>>>> -1 when the NAL unit header NRI field is 0, >>>>> >>>>> -an aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL units >>>>> with NRI=0, or >>>>> >>>>> - 0. >>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document >>>>> should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for >>>>> content that is semantically less important or tangential to the >>>>> content that surrounds it" >>>>> (https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside). >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] May we update this sentence as follows for the ease of the >>>>> reader? Note that the introductory "when" phrase mentions a >>>>> single frame while the recommendation mentions plural frames: >>>>> please consider if further updates are necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard a received video frame due to >>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it >>>>> preferably drop frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or the >>>>> highest values of TID and LID, which indicate the highest temporal and >>>>> spatial/quality enhancement layers, since those typically have fewer >>>>> dependenices on them than lower layers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps A: >>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard a received video frame due to >>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it drop: >>>>> >>>>> - frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or >>>>> >>>>> -frames with the highest values of TID and LID (which indicate the >>>>> highest temporal and spatial/quality enhancement layers) since those >>>>> typically have fewer dependencies on them than lower layers. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps B (to upddate the sg/pl switch): >>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard received video frames due to >>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it drop: >>>>> >>>>> - frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or >>>>> >>>>> -frames with the highest values of TID and LID (which indicate the >>>>> highest temporal and spatial/quality enhancement layers) since those >>>>> typically have fewer dependencies on them than lower layers. >>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "and forward the same" means in this >>>>> text. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> When an RTP switch wants to forward a new video stream to a receiver, >>>>> it is RECOMMENDED to select the new video stream from the first >>>>> switching point with the I (Independent) bit set in all spatial >>>>> layers and forward the same. >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] How may we update this text to more easily illustrate the >>>>> 1:1 mapping between initialism and expansion? >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> ... source to generate a switching point by sending Full Intra >>>>> Request (RTCP FIR) as defined in [RFC5104]... >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps: >>>>> ... source to generate a switching point by sending RTCP Full Intra >>>>> Request (FIR) as defined in [RFC5104]... >>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] In the following, are "layer" and "refreshes" redundant >>>>> with what LRR stands for? Please let us know if any updates are >>>>> necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> Because frame marking can only be used with temporally-nested >>>>> streams, temporal-layer LRR refreshes are unnecessary for frame- >>>>> marked streams. >>>>> >>>>> As expanded it would be: >>>>> Because frame marking can only be used with temporally nested >>>>> streams, temporal-layer Layer Refresh Request (LRR) refreshes are >>>>> unnecessary for frame-marked streams. >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized or left >>>>> in their current order? >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions related to abbreviations >>>>> used throughout the document. >>>>> >>>>> a) Please note that we have expanded these abbreviations as follows on >>>>> first use. Please let us know any objections. >>>>> >>>>> MCU - Multipoint Control Unit (per RFC 7667) >>>>> SRTP - Secure Real-time Transport Protocol >>>>> IDR - Instantaneous Decoding Refresh (per RFC 6184) >>>>> SDES - source description >>>>> NAL - Network Abstraction Layer >>>>> CRA - Clean Random Access >>>>> BLA - Broken Link Access >>>>> RAP - Random Access Point >>>>> AVC - Advanced Video Coidng (per RFC 6184) >>>>> SVC - Scalable Video Coding (per RFC 6190) >>>>> PACSI - Payload Content Scalability Information >>>>> NRI - Network Remote Identification >>>>> VPS - Video Parameter Set >>>>> SPS - Sequence Parameter Set >>>>> PPS - Picture Parameter Set >>>>> >>>>> b) Please clarify if/how we may expand the following abbreviations: >>>>> >>>>> VPX >>>>> PACI - is this intentionally different from PACSI? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> c) Should "intra (IDR)" frames instead be "IDR intra-frames"? This >>>>> formation occurs twice in this document. >>>>> >>>>> d) Please note that the following similar abbreviations appear to be >>>>> differently treated with regard to punctuation: >>>>> >>>>> H264 (AVC) >>>>> H264-SVC >>>>> >>>>> We have expanded the abbreviations on first use, but please let us >>>>> know if/how these should be made uniform with regard to parens and >>>>> hyphantion. >>>>> >>>>> See also our cluster-wide question regarding H264 vs. H.264. >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to terminology used >>>>> throughout the document. >>>>> >>>>> a) Two questions about the header extension: >>>>> >>>>> Should this RTP header extension appear using "Video" throughout? We >>>>> see both of the following forms. >>>>> >>>>> Video Frame Marking RTP header extension vs. Frame Marking RTP header >>>>> extension >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, in the Abstract, we see: >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> This document describes a Video Frame Marking RTP header extension >>>>> used to convey information about video frames that is critical for >>>>> error recovery and packet forwarding in RTP middleboxes or network >>>>> nodes. >>>>> >>>>> Is the use of the indefinite article "a" intentional ("a Video Frame >>>>> Marking RTP header extension")? This seems (possibly) contradictory >>>>> with the capitalization of the proper noun and use in Section 3 (are >>>>> there more types of Video Frame Marking RTP header extensions?). >>>>> Please review. >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the >>>>> online Style Guide >>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> >>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this >>>>> nature typically result in more precise language, which is >>>>> helpful for readers. >>>>> >>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this >>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. >>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> RFC Editor/mf >>>>> >>>>> *****IMPORTANT***** >>>>> >>>>> Updated 2024/08/12 >>>>> >>>>> RFC Author(s): >>>>> -------------- >>>>> >>>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >>>>> >>>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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