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1) <!--[rfced] We note that the abbreviated title for this document is
currently "PLE". We have updated this to "PLE over PSNs" to more
closely match the full title. Please let us know any objections.
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a) Please note that we have updated the title of Section 3 to use
plural "Models" as it appears that more than one model is discussed in
Section 3.2 (or at least repeated from RFC 4197). Please review and
let us know any objections.
b) Please note that we have updated the title of Section 3.1 to
"Abbreviations" as all terms in that section seem to be expansions.
Please let us know any concerns.
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4) <!-- [rfced] We note that [RFC3985] does not contain the term "Virtual
Private Wire Service" or the abbreviation "VPWS". Please review
this citation for accuracy.
Original:
VPWS - Virtual Private Wire Service [RFC3985]
-->
5) <!--[rfced] Can you clarify the use of "whereas" in this text?
Original:
PLE embraces the minimum intervention principle outlined in
Section 3.3.5 of [RFC3985] whereas the data is flowing through the
PLE encapsulation layer as received without modifications.
Perhaps:
While PLE embraces the minimum intervention principle outlined in
Section 3.3.5 of [RFC3985], in this case, the data is flowing through the
PLE encapsulation layer as received without modifications.
-->
6) <!--[rfced] In the following, does PE1 generate the clock difference
transferred? Or should the last part of this sentence be passive
voice (i.e., "is transferred" instead of "transferred")?
Original:
For the reverse direction PE1 does generate the attachment circuit
clock J and the clock difference between G and D (locked to I)
transferred from PE2 to PE1.
-->
7) <!--[rfced] Is there an "and" relationship between the items in the
lists like those found in Section 4.2.2 (and elsewhere)?
Original:
The CE-bound NSP function MUST perform
* PCS code sync (section 49.2.9 of [IEEE802.3])
* descrambling (section 49.2.10 of [IEEE802.3])
in order to properly
* transform invalid 66B code blocks into proper error control
characters /E/ (section 49.2.4.11 of [IEEE802.3])
* insert Local Fault (LF) ordered sets (section 46.3.4 of
[IEEE802.3]) when the CE-bound IWF is in PLOS state or when PLE
packets are received with the L-bit being set
Perhaps:
The CE-bound NSP function MUST perform:
* PCS code sync (Section 49.2.9 of [IEEE802.3]) and
* descrambling (Section 49.2.10 of [IEEE802.3])
in order to properly:
* transform invalid 66B code blocks into proper error control
characters /E/ (section 49.2.4.11 of [IEEE802.3]) and
* insert Local Fault (LF) ordered sets (Section 46.3.4 of
[IEEE802.3]) when the CE-bound IWF is in PLOS state or when PLE
packets are received with the L bit set.
-->
8) <!--[rfced] We note that RFC-to-be 9800
(draft-ietf-spring-srv6-srh-compression-27) uses Destination
Address field. Please review the following and let us know if
updates are necessary:
Original:
The first SID is only placed in the destination IPv6 address field.
-->
9) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "to detect malformed packets the default":
does this mean "to detect malformed packets by default" or is
another rephrasing necessary?
Original:
To detect malformed packets the default, preconfigured or signaled
payload size MUST be assumed.
-->
10) <!--[rfced] Please review this use of "both":
Original:
The same PT value MAY be reused both for direction and between
different PLE VPWS.
Perhaps A:
The same PT value MAY be reused for both directions and between
different PLE VPWS.
Perhaps B:
The same PT value MAY be reused both for directionality and
between different PLE VPWS.
-->
11) <!--[rfced] Please confirm that the following uses of PLE should not
be flipped in their expansions:
Original:
* ES-PLE : PLE Errored Seconds
* SES-PLE : PLE Severely Errored Seconds
* UAS-PLE : PLE Unavailable Seconds
Perhaps:
* ES-PLE : Errored Seconds PLE
* SES-PLE : Severely Errored Seconds PLE
* UAS-PLE : Unavailable Seconds PLE
-->
12) <!--[rfced] Please review our edits to the following to ensure we have
captured your intended meaning.
Original:
Possible options, but not exhaustively, are a Diffserv-enabled
[RFC2475] PSN with a per domain behavior [RFC3086] supporting
Expedited Forwarding [RFC3246]. Traffic-engineered paths through the
PSN with bandwidth reservation and admission control applied. Or
capacity over-provisioning.
Current:
Possible options, but not exhaustively, are as follows:
* a Diffserv-enabled (see [RFC2475]) PSN with a per-domain behavior (see
[RFC3086]) supporting Expedited Forwarding (se
e [RFC3246]),
* traffic-engineered paths through the PSN with bandwidth reservation and
admission control applied, or
* capacity over-provisioning.
-->
13) <!--[rfced] Please confirm the use of "threads" (and not "threats") in
the following:
Original:
Clock synchronization leveraging PTP is sensitive to Packet Delay
Variation (PDV) and vulnerable to various threads and attack vectors.
-->
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the text. Please review and let us know w
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https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/incits/incits4042006 - leads to an
error page on the ANSI webstore. We found the following URL that
points to the most recent version of this INCITS document. We have
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for the reader. -->
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throughout the document:
a) We see multiple similar forms of the following terms. Please let us know
if/how they should be made consistent:
bit stream vs. bit-stream
lane vs. Lane
-->
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PMD - Physical Medium Dependent and Physical Media Dependent
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https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#exp_abbrev) for the
following unless we hear objection:
TDM
LF
ACH
CBR
LSP
NOS
PDV
PLR
PMD
PTP
RTCP
SRTP
SD
SID
CSID
TTS
NSP
FEC
PCS
LPI
PLOS
DEG
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RFC9801 (draft-ietf-pals-ple-15)
Title : Private Line Emulation over Packet Switched Networks
Author(s) : S. Gringeri, J. Whittaker, N. Leymann, C. Schmutzer, C. Brown
WG Chair(s) : Andrew G. Malis, Stewart Bryant
Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde
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