Hi Ron,

Thanks for the quick reply. We have marked your approval on the AUTH48 status 
page for this document (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9837).

Best regards,
RFC Editor/rv



> On Aug 8, 2025, at 12:27 PM, Ron Bonica <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I approve this text.
> 
> 
> Juniper Business Use Only
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> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9837 <draft-ietf-6man-vpn-dest-opt-11> for 
> your review
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> 
> Hi Adrian and other authors,
> 
> Adrian - Thank you for addressing all of our questions. We have updated the 
> document accordingly.
> 
> All - Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do 
> not make changes once it has been published as an RFC. Contact us with any 
> further updates or with your approval of the document in its current form. We 
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> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
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> Thank you,
> 
> RFC Editor/rv
> 
> 
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2025, at 7:18 AM, Ron Bonica 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I defer to Adrian on all points. He is a native speaker of English. I speak 
> > only American.
> >
> >                                                  Ron
> >
> >
> > Juniper Business Use Only
> > From: Adrian Farrel <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 8, 2025 5:20 AM
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Ron Bonica 
> > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9837 <draft-ietf-6man-vpn-dest-opt-11> for 
> > your review
> >  [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> >
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Definitive responses should come from Ron, but in the interest of moving 
> > things along, here are my thoughts...
> >
> > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Should the note in Section 3 of this document be in the 
> > > <aside>
> > > element? The <aside> element is defined as "a container for content that
> > > is semantically less important or tangential to the content that
> > > surrounds it" 
> > > (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary*aside__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!Ae-Fqk-UK1M6PbWK49f_lRu5SAO9yvxT4nagRabnlIaDeDRjmPOTjNARh5BhMsFcQr9cT66Je9rLsD3P0w$
> > >  ).
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >   NOTE: For this experiment, the Option Type is set to '01011110',
> > >   i.e., 0x5E.  The highest-order two bits are set to 01 indicating that
> > >   the required action by a destination node that does not recognize the
> > >   option is to discard the packet.  The third highest-order bit is set
> > >   to 0 indicating that Option Data cannot be modified along the path
> > >   between the packet's source and its destination.  The remaining low-
> > >   order bits are set to '11110' to indicate the single IPv6 Destination
> > >   Option Type code point available in the registry for experimentation.
> > > -->
> >
> > No, I don't think this is an aside. It is a "Nota Bene" type of "NOTE", not 
> > to be glossed over by the reader.
> >
> > > 2) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated this sentence as follows to clarify "in 
> > > the
> > > registry". We also moved "for experimentation" to earlier in the
> > > sentence. Let us know any concerns.
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >   The remaining low-
> > >   order bits are set to '11110' to indicate the single IPv6 Destination
> > >   Option Type code point available in the registry for experimentation.
> > >
> > > Perhaps:
> > >   The remaining low-order bits are set to '11110' to indicate the single
> > >   IPv6 Destination Option Type code point available for experimentation
> > >   in the "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options" registry [V6MSG].
> > > -->
> >
> > The pedant in me (which will not die!) says that we don't do 
> > experimentation in the registry :-Z
> > But, if you, as a native speaker, find this clearer, I don't object.
> >
> > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Would you like to update these list items to avoid 
> > > repetition of
> > > "Defined in"? Or do you prefer the current?
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >   The IPv6 header contains:
> > >
> > >   *  Version - Defined in [RFC8200].  MUST be equal to 6.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >   The IPv6 Destination Options Extension Header contains:
> > >
> > >   *  Next Header - Defined in [RFC8200].  MUST identify the protocol of
> > >      the customer data.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Perhaps (remove "Defined in"):
> > >   The IPv6 header contains:
> > >
> > >   *  Version [RFC8200].  MUST be equal to 6.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Or (include [RFC8200] in introductory text):
> > >   The IPv6 header contains the following (all defined in [RFC8200]):
> > >
> > >   *  Version - MUST be equal to 6.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >   The IPv6 Destination Options Extension Header contains the following
> > >   (both defined in [RFC8200]):
> > >
> > >   *  Next Header - MUST identify the protocol of
> > >      the customer data.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > I prefer this second formulation (with the two pieces of introductory text)
> >
> > > -->
> >
> > > 4) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
> > >
> > > a) We see the following forms in the document. Should these be 
> > > consistent? If
> > > so, please let us know which form is preferred.
> > >
> > > IPv6 VPN Service Option
> > > VPN Service Option
> >
> > I see only one "IPv6 VPN Service option" [sic] which is in Section 7.
> > Thus, please change that to "VPN Service Option".
> >
> > But there is also "IPv6 VPN Service Destination Option"
> >
> > The document title should remain as it is (qualifying the VPN Service 
> > Option to IPv6).
> > The other cases (Sections 5 and 7) can all change to "VPN Service Option".
> >
> > > Destination Options header
> > > IPv6 Destination Options Extension Header
> >
> > I only found one " IPv6 Destination Options Extension Header" (in Section 
> > 4).
> > It serves as a sub-heading and contrasts with "IPv6 header" above the 
> > previous bullets, so I think it is good.
> > On the other hand, please s/IPv6 header/IPv6 Header/ in that previous 
> > sub-header.
> >
> > > b) Please review "Destination Options" in this sentence. Is this correct, 
> > > or
> > > should this be updated to "Destination Options headers" or "IPv6 
> > > Destination
> > > Options"?
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >   It MAY also contain any legal
> > >   combination of other Destination Options.
> >
> > Correct as written in the original.
> >
> > > c) We see the following forms in the document:
> > >
> > > IPv6 VPN Service Destination Option (5 instances, including in document 
> > > title)
> > > VPN Service Destination Option (1 instance)
> > >
> > > The abstract notes that "The experimental IPv6 Destination Option is 
> > > called
> > > the VPN Service Option." We see instances of "VPN Service Option" and 
> > > "IPv6
> > > Destination Option" throughout the document.
> > >
> > > Should instances of "IPv6 VPN Service Destination Option" be updated to 
> > > "VPN
> > > Service Option"? Please review and let us know if any updates are needed 
> > > for
> > > clarity.
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >  IPv6 VPN Service Destination Option
> > >
> > > Perhaps:
> > >   VPN Service Option
> >
> > This overlaps with part of point a).
> > I believe it is fully covered there, but please come back if it is unclear.
> >
> > > d) We have updated the abbreviated title (appears in the running header 
> > > at the
> > > top of each page in the pdf output) as follows. Let us know if any further
> > > updates are needed per the question above.
> > >
> > > Original:
> > >  Svc. Dest. Opt.
> > >
> > > Updated:
> > >  Service Destination Option
> > >
> > > Perhaps:
> > >  VPN Service Option
> >
> > Would ideally be "VPN Service Destination Option", but if that is too long, 
> > "VPN Service Option".
> >
> > > -->
> >
> > > 5) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following 
> > > abbreviations
> > > per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> > > expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> > >
> > > Segment Routing over IPv6 (SRv6)
> > > Network Virtualization over Layer 3 (NVO3)
> > > Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
> >
> > All fine, but really is time to make these three "well known" :-)
> >
> > > -->
> >
> > > 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the 
> > > online
> > > Style Guide 
> > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/*inclusive_language__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!Ae-Fqk-UK1M6PbWK49f_lRu5SAO9yvxT4nagRabnlIaDeDRjmPOTjNARh5BhMsFcQr9cT66Je9rAh-eLIg$
> > >  >
> > > and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature 
> > > typically
> > > result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> > >
> > > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
> > > still be reviewed as a best practice.
> >
> > I looked again, and found nothing of concern.
> >
> > > -->
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > No! Thank you.
> >
> > Best,
> > Adrian


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